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Old 02-16-2007, 04:42 AM   #1
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weight of F250

Has anyone weighed their F250, if so what was your weight?
Yesterday, I weighted my new 2007 F250, CC, SB, 4X4, Powerstroke, and was suprised at a weight of 8300 lbs with me and Kay, full fuel, hitch plus about 50 lbs of stuff in the bed. Seems kinda high to me, my '03 Duramax CC, SB, 4X4 only weighed about 7500 with the same setup.
The truck stop was really busy, and I wonder if they gave me the right ticket.
 
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Old 02-16-2007, 04:52 AM   #2
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Our '06 F350 weighed in at 8,040 with no people or additional cargo. Sounds like yours is about right.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:43 AM   #3
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Our 06 F-250 4x4 supercab L/B with hitch, wife and 1/2 tank of fuel ( I was off the scales) weights 7640 lb. Your weight is about right for CC and fuel
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Old 02-16-2007, 08:00 AM   #4
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Just weighted my '05 F250 PSD CC SRD long bed with hitch, full tank, wife, me and 2 small dog came in @ 7600 lbs
Hope that helps..
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Old 02-16-2007, 11:25 AM   #5
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Fords are very heavy trucks. I looked at a 2006 F250 PSD CC 4 x 4 on the lot. The cargo capacity off the sticker was 2507, the GVWR off the other sticker was 10000, therefore the empty truck weight had to be 7493. Add fuel, hitch, passengers, stuff and there you are.
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Old 02-16-2007, 02:57 PM   #6
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Dickie, the Fords are heavier than they used to be because in 2005 they went to a very heavy and very, very strong new frame, larger brakes, control arms from the F550 (I think that's right), etc. With full diesel, hitch, spray in liner, all our gear, both of us onboard, and a steel crossbed toolbox loaded to the gills ours scales at 8560. That sounds very heavy but we are heavily loaded in that toolbox, including two good size toolboxes full of wrenches, sockets, etc. Plus everything else.

Our is the same as yours but in a 2005 model. Strength comes at a price. That usually means additional weight. Your F250 probably has a GCWR of 23,000 pounds and a GVWR of 10,000 and a tow rating of right around 15,400. That's considerably more than your '03 2500 on all counts. Most of the additional GVWR is offset by the additional weight but you are ahead of the game on tow and GCWR ratings.
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Old 02-16-2007, 03:10 PM   #7
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Once again , tow and combined ratings are the least important and GVWR is the one that is marked on the door. An 8500 pound truck with a 10000 GVWR leaves a pathetic 1500 pound payload and is just another example of how people over rate their pick ups.

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Old 02-16-2007, 03:52 PM   #8
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Don't forget that 2500 with 8800 lb gvwr and 7500 lb weigh has payload of 1300. Lower than pathetic, I guess.

Dickie, regardless what the naysayers seem to think, the difference between your F250 and the F350 SRW is an extra leaf on the spring. That adds GVWR. The tow and GCWR numbers are the same on both the F250 and F350 SRW. Same axle, bearings, brakes, frame, etc. I added airbags and maintain level attitude on the truck with pinweight of 2860 with perfect stability, braking, steering, etc., over 76k miles on this truck.. They will tell you nothing changes GVWR numbers assigned by the mfr. Airbags do not change the official mfr's numbers. They only add ability to handle more weight, bringing it into the range of the F350 SRW. You still have to make sure you are not over axle and tire ratings. Many of us understand this (check signatures on this forum). You will have to decide for yourself what you are comfortable with.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:07 PM   #9
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My 03 f250 sd cc long bed 4x4 weighted 8000 with just me and 1/2 tank of fuel. think in o5 they beefed it up some over 03 04's
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:52 AM   #10
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Steve's above posts show that his truck is around 1400 pounds over his 10000 lb GVWR when in tow.
He is comfortable and happy and that is his opinion and I will never change it. Here is mine.

People that decide that the combined rating or the trailer GVWR are the most important, simply because they can meet those ratings are putting their head in the sand.

I just don't want people seeking advice on tow vehicles to be influenced by what some people get away with. The company making your truck agrees with me, insurance companies agree with me, and if that makes me a naysayer, I will accept that . The title I have for the folks that choose to overload their vehicles by 3/4 of a ton is a lot more insulting than "naysayer" and I will leave it at that.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:20 AM   #11
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Don is exactly correct.

Steve...please, lets be somewhat reasonable in this discussion. These truck are NOT the same and never will be the same, if they were, the GVWR would be the same. You readily admit to over loading your truck by nearly 3/4 of a ton! It is obvious you are not going to change your mind, you are convinced all is well...that's fine for you. However I would ask that you please not make posts fraught with incorrect information for the sake of folks trying to make logical and sound judgments on the selection of a TV.
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:42 PM   #12
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Bert, I dont think you are getting the point. Lets say you have a white truck and the paint code on the sticker on the inside of the door says it white. You take the truck and have it painted black but the sticker still says its white. What color is the truck? Before I ordered my F250 I talked to the professional poeple that work on these trucks, and Steve is absolutely correct the only difference between the F250 and F350 is the rear spring. There are many things a person can do to increase the capacity of the truck and and the sticker is not going to change. I have never heard of anyone being held liable for those factory figures on the door sticker. Everyone should do what they think is right and safe based on all the information they are able to obtain. I have spent my life in law enforcement and trucking and I can assure you that I would not drive across the street in something I did not feel was absolutely safe.
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Old 02-18-2007, 02:27 AM   #13
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Bill, when you ordered your F250 I hope you got the 18" wheels that you must get on the F350 SRW to get the maximum GVWR. Steve has the 17" and yet in post after post he keeps insisting his truck is identical to the F350. He knew he would be overloading his truck by 1400 pounds and went with the lower rated 17". His posts on this issue have become a gong show to anyone that really understands how these trucks are rated and I am fed up with reading them but in the name of safety I will respond to every one them.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:23 AM   #14
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Don, yes I did, the tires are 18" Continental rated at 3640 lbs at 80 psi. I method of rating these trucks by the manufacture is very confusing and no one seems to know the criteria they use. My truck has a GVWR at 10,000 lbs however the axel ratings are 6000 lbs front and 6100 lbs rear, that is 12,100 lbs go figure.
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Old 02-18-2007, 06:47 AM   #15
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Confusion reins..We have the 12,600lb GVWR package However it reads..front 4550LBS Rear 9000LBs that would be 13,550lbs...hummm also there is the cryptic message that reads.. Weight of passengers & cargo should not exceed 5426lbs. The tires LT245/75R17 say max Load 2910 (Dual) I have 4 of them on the rear 2910X4= 11640 whoa.. the other sticker said Rear 9000lbs. The difference between 12600 and 11640 is 960 lbs..where did that go??? The front tires , same as the rear tires read...3195lbs (single) X2.I do have 2 tires on the front =6390lbs.. whoa again' the other sticker says 4550lbs front. No wonder we are a so confused???
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Old 02-18-2007, 07:03 AM   #16
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Was really trying to avoid this thread after it turned sour - and hope DLNK got his question answered...

My F350 SRW has a rear GAWR of 7,000 lbs.

Is it just a spring that makes the difference between Bill's 6,100 lbs, my 7,000 lbs, and Rich's 9,000 lbs? - probably not.

Could I add springs or air bags to the Monty to get a GVWR of 18,000 lbs? - probably not.

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Old 02-18-2007, 08:59 AM   #17
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Bill...Your color analogy is apples and oranges...and, I do get it perfectly. What I do not get it why many drivers of over weight 3/4 ton trucks insist on trying to justify what they are doing. The ONLY thing that matters is the GVWR on the data plate, makes no difference what you do to the truck, you cannot change the GVWR. To say the trucks are the same except for a spring is ludicrous...if that was true Ford would make it an option..."add a spring and make your F250 an F350 for only $xxxx." If you want to talk liability, talk to an attorney. When I explained the weight issue (before I ordered the Montana or the truck), he explained the liability issue. Then not so tactfully said I would be a total expetive deleted if I was to expose myself to that kind of personal liability...when all could be avoided with a bigger truck or smaller trailer.

This has been posted on here many times...here it is again. The weights of the two axles combined are greater than the GVWR so we can be flexible in loading our trucks. You can load either axle to its capacity as long as when they are combined they do not exceed GVWR.

This has also been posted before, but looks like it needs to be posted again:

From Trailer Life 2007 "Guide To Towing", page 14:

"The GVWR figures are neither guidelines nor estimates; they are limits, and there are numerous valid reasons the manufacturers arrived at the figures given. If you think these figures are "close enough" or have a fudge-factor percentage built in, think again. Your warranty coverage--and your safety--may be at risk".

Rich...re the tires, all they need to do, when their weight capacity is combined (either four or two), is be able to support the weight of the particular maximum axle rating.

This whole weight issue is really rather simply.

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Old 02-18-2007, 02:09 PM   #18
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Brad, yes you could get a GVWR of 18000 lbs on your monty by changing the axels and the sticker would not change.
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Old 02-18-2007, 02:13 PM   #19
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Bill,

I didn't say axles, I said adding a spring or air bags.

I guess my point is that by adding springs or airbags, I still have the same axle rating, tire rating, frame rating, brake rating, pin box rating, etc.
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Old 02-18-2007, 02:59 PM   #20
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All I know for sure is I got enough truck to handle the 3400 and although I am no kind of a expert I have done enough reading to agree with CAT320..that is why I got the truck I got although it is a pain in the butt to drive around. A pain in the butt is better than RIP. This thread needs to shut down because no one is going to change any ones mind...Howver..when someone asks a question any question..lets give them a honest and accurate answer.
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