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01-26-2020, 02:17 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: New Castle
Posts: 112
M.O.C. #22550
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A cold weather puzzle
Montana 3701 LK We a cold weather camping I know some will suggest if I move south Sorry not a option
We put water in fresh tank to use when not using city water ..So if above 34 , city water, otherwise fresh water tank
All tank heaters on ( at least the indicator light)
Use electric heater in underbelly + furnace heat keeps under area at least 45 degrees
What happened : 10 degrees, high winds Using fresh only.. wake in morning. Flush head, pump starts and won’t stop No water ...but level indicator went from full night before to now showing empty
Can’t get pressure Amazingly now all tanks show empty I’m thinking line froze, drained tank and now scre...d .
No leaks underneath . No frozen water under camper Checked bottom nothing unusual
THIS IS SECOND TIME IN AS MANY YEARS
so 3 days later, warming temps, and guess what All indicators are working, and fresh water tank shows full Lol
Pump runs fine but not turning on as trying to figure this out first
Ideas are appreciated
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01-26-2020, 04:18 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,932
M.O.C. #20477
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Sounds like the combination of cold and winds froze a water line in spite of your efforts to stay warm.
Would pull the panel in the basement in front of the furnace to make sure you are getting good furnace flow into the underbelly. You want to make sure the furnace is providing the lions share of your heat when it is that cold. If you are using your fireplace or electric heaters to take the load off the furnace you may want to reconsider that - the more the furnace runs the better.
Not sure I understand why your water tank would show full after warm-up if you had drained the tank when it had froze?
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01-26-2020, 08:30 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Knoxville
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #24025
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Why don't you just buy a heated hose?, that way you don't have to fill your tank or disconnect.
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01-27-2020, 08:26 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: New Castle
Posts: 112
M.O.C. #22550
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I have some but not enough heated hose But I’m more concerned about the water lines in the camper do prefer to manage it that way Thank you got your suggestion
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01-27-2020, 08:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: New Castle
Posts: 112
M.O.C. #22550
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Good points Thank you I actually did as you said to make sure heat was being distributed
I’m thinking maybe the lines opposite wall ( on the inside ) near the pump ( not part of the heated section though ) Gould be issue
Indicators are the confusing part I did not drain the tank nor could I find any leaks , but all the indicator light changed Fresh went from 3/4 full ( before the incident) to -0- (when no water and seemed froze) to back to 3/4 full after the Warm up
Black and both gray tanks did the same
Thank you for your help
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02-15-2020, 08:54 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Islip Terrace
Posts: 405
M.O.C. #22165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rsmarlow82
Good points Thank you I actually did as you said to make sure heat was being distributed
I’m thinking maybe the lines opposite wall ( on the inside ) near the pump ( not part of the heated section though ) Gould be issue
Indicators are the confusing part I did not drain the tank nor could I find any leaks , but all the indicator light changed Fresh went from 3/4 full ( before the incident) to -0- (when no water and seemed froze) to back to 3/4 full after the Warm up
Black and both gray tanks did the same
Thank you for your help
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Something I am doing for next year, using 12 volt self regulating heat trace on all water lines & pump with insulation.
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03-13-2020, 06:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Wind does not affect the true air temperature.
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07-24-2020, 12:00 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Broomfield
Posts: 1
M.O.C. #25487
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Put small heater in belly
We have a 3820FK and live in Denver area. We had someone living in the rig all winter. At first the water lines froze and like you said, nothing worked and indicators were wonky. I went to home Depot and got a small (8" square ) under desk sort of space heater with a thermostat. i opened the storage compartment and removed the first panel, right infant of where the pump and plumbing is (behind outside convince center) and put the heater there blowing into the basement area. I also found two open holes from the outside straight into the under belly, one was for gas lines and can't remember other one. So I got some insulation and plugged those up. We had temps down to 11 degrees overnight and day still in 20's and had no further issues with plumbing freezing.
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