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01-21-2019, 07:15 PM
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#121
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Boone
Posts: 311
M.O.C. #21011
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John is correct, All High Country’s above the 331 series have 12” I Beams.
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2018 Montana HC 362RD
2016 Chevrolet 3500 Duramax HD SRW
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01-21-2019, 07:18 PM
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#122
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Boone
Posts: 311
M.O.C. #21011
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HC website.
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2018 Montana HC 362RD
2016 Chevrolet 3500 Duramax HD SRW
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01-21-2019, 07:42 PM
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#123
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Gladwin
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #23312
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high country is a 4 season the only different s is the leveling and the slide outs are electric the frame on the HC is also a 12 inch it has the same insulation and same floor as the Montana and the same finish on the out side
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01-21-2019, 09:05 PM
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#124
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Aztec
Posts: 77
M.O.C. #23272
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Wow !
Lots of reading.
I have a 2016 Keystone Montana HM 374fl High Country.
Do I have a Montana, a High Country, or some sorta hybrid ?
I'm sure it is a light weight, because of the helium technology sticker by the door.
I have 6 point auto level, not sure how many of my 4 slides are cable, but at least the 2 in the nose are, cheap crappy paper covered wood, as some places are bubbled up, or starting to peel, metal faucets, 2, 15k a/c units, 1 being some kinda whisper quiet.
It also has the heavy axles, morride (?) 3000 suspension, and 16" 110 psi tires.
This being our 3rd 5er, is the best floor plan for us so far. We REALLY like the front living room. It also has wood blinds in the front, and kitchen area.
I would like a cable slide repair kit, or at least a list of parts, so I can make up several. I may have missed it somewhere ?
Are we the only ones on here with a 374FL ?
Haven't seen another listed so far.
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2016 Keystone Montana HM 374FL High Country (TRADED)
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2017 Grand Design 376th
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01-22-2019, 07:14 AM
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#125
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Gladwin
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #23312
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people are saying that the HC dosnt have gloss paint. good TV.heated tanks .real wood 12 inch frame. insulation is thinner not true .6 point leveling .mor ride system. Fantastic fans.6 point leveling .my HC has all this.quit trying to justify WY you paid $30.000 more than me. i had the Montana L we loved it. all but the oil system did not work in Michigan winters .we love the electric system.they always work .i have a 2018 HC maybe they started to make them like the Montana L in 2018 if you but my Montana L next to my HC with no stinker you could not tell the different.they are the same quality the only different s is the oil system versus electric and 1500 lb lighter than my Montana L.
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01-22-2019, 08:16 AM
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#126
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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If it works for you and your happy with it that's all that counts. We full time in ours and the extra money was money well spent.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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01-22-2019, 09:07 AM
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#127
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ.
Posts: 1,811
M.O.C. #10552
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To each his own. We are on our 3rd rig. Two Mountaineers and now a Montana. Our choice had nothing to do with insulation or tank heaters or how the slides worked. It was floor plan just like almost all buyers.
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Wayne and Ann Moore
2015 Ford F-350 King Ranch
Firestone air bags, bed saver.
Add 40 GAL tank in bed.
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01-22-2019, 09:07 AM
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#128
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,548
M.O.C. #2283
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My HC has a sandwich floor. 2 layers of plywood or OSB with 2 inches of foam between them.
Lynwood
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01-22-2019, 12:01 PM
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#129
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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MHC has PITBS Electric levelers
Norco Slide motor debacle.
Micro vs Micro/convection oven
Fire Place is not as good as M's
More paper covered trim
No Daylight shades
No Chair buddy
rigid hitch
Chinabomb e rated tires
Toss up which stove/oven is better
Less storage under bed
Pluses DW likes the kitchen better and the bathrooms are bigger
The MHC for us, had more trim fall off, more mystery screws on the floor at each stop and more stripped out screws than our M
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Mocha, one-eyed toothless, hurricane survivor, Pirate dog
2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
B&W 20K for Ford OEM Puck
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat CCLB PSD DRW KJ5CQH
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01-22-2019, 02:51 PM
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#130
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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For us it was all about the floor plan. If we could have gotten the HC 381 floor plan in a higher end unit we would have. Something tells me though that we will see a higher end version of that floor plan before long! Maybe in a wide body too.
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James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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01-22-2019, 02:58 PM
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#131
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Floor plan is the main reason I went HC. Another was I prefer to never have another hydraulic leak, prefer electric slides and auto level. The extra weight on a Montana would have required the biggest PIA, a dually. Cost was not a factor.
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John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
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01-22-2019, 03:03 PM
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#132
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn
Floor plan is the main reason I went HC. Another was I prefer to never have another hydraulic leak, prefer electric slides and auto level. The extra weight on a Montana would have required the biggest PIA, a dually. Cost was not a factor.
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Captn we are on the opposite ends. You could not give me a MHC with electric levelers and Norco leaking electric slides. I do wish you all the luck with yours.
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Mocha, one-eyed toothless, hurricane survivor, Pirate dog
2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
B&W 20K for Ford OEM Puck
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat CCLB PSD DRW KJ5CQH
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01-22-2019, 03:55 PM
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#133
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,548
M.O.C. #2283
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It sounds like everyone got the best camper, for them.
Congrats Everybody.
Lynwood
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01-22-2019, 04:04 PM
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#134
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffba
Captn we are on the opposite ends. You could not give me a MHC with electric levelers and Norco leaking electric slides. I do wish you all the luck with yours.
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My HC is an early 2017 and do not have the leaking slide motors. One good hydraulic leak and that was enough. The smell did not leave, one of the reasons I got rid of that one. I do miss the speed of slide movement. A lot fewer problems with electric slides and auto level for me.
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John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
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01-22-2019, 04:05 PM
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#135
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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WOW!! I for sure didn't realize our High Country was such a piece of crap according to the 'experts' here.
I think this thead has reached a point where folks are getting a bit carried away and possibly getting into snobbery (which I encountered here when I first joined in '14 tho not now). Whether it's a MHC, Montana, or even a $250K New Horizon, every owner has a reason that a particular brand was purchased. Are they always happy with their purchase - of course not, but sometime very strong reasons exist, not the least is the cost. We are happy with our HC - and yes, it could be newer and, maybe, better but why when it still does what we need it to do ever camping season either at the seasonal or on one of our trips
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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01-22-2019, 04:12 PM
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#136
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 3,924
M.O.C. #20477
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All,
This thread is nearing 3 years old - we have gone well beyond what the OP asked. The models and equipment of the Montana and HC have changed a fair amount since then. Each model provides a different option for the individual buyer based on their desires - there is no right or wrong.
Probably time to shut this thread down.
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Zack and Donna plus Millie and Ranger
2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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01-22-2019, 04:24 PM
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#137
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
WOW!! I for sure didn't realize our High Country was such a piece of crap according to the 'experts' here.
I think this thead has reached a point where folks are getting a bit carried away and possibly getting into snobbery (which I encountered here when I first joined in '14 tho not now). Whether it's a MHC, Montana, or even a $250K New Horizon, every owner has a reason that a particular brand was purchased. Are they always happy with their purchase - of course not, but sometime very strong reasons exist, not the least is the cost. We are happy with our HC - and yes, it could be newer and, maybe, better but why when it still does what we need it to do ever camping season either at the seasonal or on one of our trips
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Sorry my opinion and experience is not the same as yours. My opinion comes from a bad experience with MHC. Some of that is still ongoing with 2019's still needing drip pans installed.
I am not being snobbish just sharing my experience. Which is what is encouraged to do here.
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Mocha, one-eyed toothless, hurricane survivor, Pirate dog
2019 20th Anniversary Edition 3701LK
B&W 20K for Ford OEM Puck
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat CCLB PSD DRW KJ5CQH
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01-22-2019, 04:49 PM
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#138
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Gladwin
Posts: 11
M.O.C. #23312
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when i posted i didnt see how old the thread was im new to this. but yes i had the drip pans installed. i didnt think they where any big deal. they did it with no problem and they put new roof on to. with no question .and yes the floor plane sold me to i have the 2018 Montana HC 374 FL the curb side door is what we loved.
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01-22-2019, 05:40 PM
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#139
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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I think it time to put this to bed for good!!!
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Bob & Carol Washington St
2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
Happy Trails
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01-22-2019, 11:08 PM
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#140
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuilderBob
I think it time to put this to bed for good!!!
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Good night Irene.
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