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09-23-2019, 06:11 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #23949
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Sattelite hookup issues
Seeking help to figure my issue(s) out. I have a 2019 3791RD and cannot for the life of me watch satellite through the conventional hook-up where the water supply side is located. I have a portable Dish system (Tailgater) with a Wally receiver. I have to wire the satellite through the living room window directly to the Wally receiver and HDMI from the Wally to the TV. That works fine but I don't want to remove the screen and keep the window open. When I hook it up to the Satellite input and then from the satellite jack in the living room to the Wally it does not work.
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09-23-2019, 06:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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I know someone posted a very good document on the site regarding key tv system and satellite providers.
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09-23-2019, 06:56 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Appling
Posts: 176
M.O.C. #20840
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Jeff - Concur with Fireguy, but I too have a 3791 and had to try both Satellite connections in the convenience center to determine which was wired to the living room TV. I assume that you've tried both connections already?
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Wayne & Karen
2017 3791RD, MORryde SRE4000 w/ X Factor
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, LB, PSD, DRW, 4WD, Curt Q24
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09-23-2019, 06:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
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09-23-2019, 07:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Appears a bad connector or misrouting of the coax wiring internal to the rig. If you still have an amplified antenna, that needs to be turned off. Not sure what you call it, but there is a flat coax connector I used to use, that was about 5 inches long and would go under the screen with two connections, between coax from the antenna and coax to the tv which would solve your screen issue. Purchased off Amazon.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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09-23-2019, 07:37 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #23949
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Thanks for the info. There is a power indication same as my Everest used to have, but unlike the Everest there is no way to turn it off.
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09-23-2019, 09:03 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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Don't ask me why but on our 3790RD I had to shut off the amplifier on the TV antenna in order for the Satellite system to work. It is behind the TV in the bedroom, little green light is on when it is turned on.
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09-23-2019, 09:17 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #23949
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Awesome!!!! I will look this afternoon when I head down to the campground after work. I figured there had to be a power switch somewhere but why in the hell would one hide the damn thing.
Hope that is the ticket! Again Thank you for the easiest thing to check first
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09-23-2019, 12:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,329
M.O.C. #3699
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster100
Don't ask me why but on our 3790RD I had to shut off the amplifier on the TV antenna in order for the Satellite system to work. It is behind the TV in the bedroom, little green light is on when it is turned on.
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On all Montanas you must should the OTA signal booster off when you use a satellite system.
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2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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09-23-2019, 12:57 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: elmvale
Posts: 105
M.O.C. #22355
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I had the same problem, I have had mine park all summer while I build my new home so I ran it thru the rubber in the front slide ,374 model. Then just put slide back in
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09-24-2019, 03:03 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Camden
Posts: 40
M.O.C. #20575
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I had issues trying to run two receivers off of a manual dish. The connections in the convenience center go through a splitter and the signals from the two receivers confused each other. So my fix was to use a tool ($20.00 at Lowes) to identify the actual cable from the rear den TV and disconnected it from the splitter and connected it directly to the bottom Satellite connection in the convenience center and then I ran two cables from the dish and connected one to the bottom (den TV) connection and the other to the middle connection (also Satellite that still goes through the splitter). I move the receiver from the bedroom tv to the outside tv if I want to watch the tv outside. No issues at all as long as dish can see the satellites.
Good Luck!
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Goose
2017 Montana 3791RD
2017 Ford F-350 SRW
PullRite SuperGlide 24K
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09-24-2019, 04:45 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
Posts: 234
M.O.C. #22281
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I've never had to turn off my antenna amplifier to use my satellite on my 2019 384br. I had to on the trailers I had before.
I have a winegard pathwayx2, got mad at it and installed a stationary dish on a tripod where I'm staying for work. Still wasn't working well enough. I opened up the basement and took the bedroom tv completely off the splitter, and wired it direct. I then moved the living room tv to the other side of the splitter. Everything has worked well since.
The supplied splitters are junk. I bought 2 new ones in anticipation of having to change this one out and have a spare, but haven't had to yet.
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2018 Ram cclb 4x4 6.7 cummins/aisin dually
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09-24-2019, 05:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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Neither have I. In my case (pre keytv) the satellite cabling is not connected to the shared cable and OTA signals.
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09-29-2019, 01:55 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Pahrump
Posts: 65
M.O.C. #24555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBaker8011
Seeking help to figure my issue(s) out. I have a 2019 3791RD and cannot for the life of me watch satellite through the conventional hook-up where the water supply side is located. I have a portable Dish system (Tailgater) with a Wally receiver. I have to wire the satellite through the living room window directly to the Wally receiver and HDMI from the Wally to the TV. That works fine but I don't want to remove the screen and keep the window open. When I hook it up to the Satellite input and then from the satellite jack in the living room to the Wally it does not work.
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We had our satellite installed on top of our 2019 3791RD. We put a 2nd one on there too for the bedroom wally.
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09-29-2019, 03:36 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Emery
Posts: 49
M.O.C. #14073
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Save yourself heart ache.
BY PASS THE KEYTV AND GO DIRECT THROUGH
THE WINDOW TO THE RECIEVER.
no ifs and no buts.
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09-29-2019, 03:38 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sun Lakes, AZ 85248
Posts: 179
M.O.C. #9174
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The new Montana Legacy package includes a device named KEY TV. That solves the problem you are describing when you use the Tailgator. I called the TG manufacturer and was told that the TG signal was too weak to pass through an RV wiring system. I now have KEY TV and ... problem solved.
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2021 Montana 3121RL Legacy
2017 Ford F250 6.7 diesel
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09-29-2019, 07:53 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: northern new england
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #22358
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On my 2017 310RE I Ran new top quality cable from the walley down threw the wall and along the underbody and up to the convenience ctr. Then i hooked up my satellite cable to my pathway X2. Works great.
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09-29-2019, 07:54 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: northern new england
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #22358
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My original cable acted like it was pinched in the back wall when i tried to remove it
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09-30-2019, 04:46 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Auburndale
Posts: 28
M.O.C. #21715
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Add a new direct port
I gave up on the “factory” connections in my 2018 3721RL. I think it has to do with the duplexer Montana uses to share bandwidth. I installed a new coax port directly behind the LR wall. Works great now that it is a direct connection to the back of the Wally receiver. Easy to connect/disconnect wether I place the dish antenna near the back of the coach or on the roof.
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09-30-2019, 05:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Willow Spring, NC
Posts: 992
M.O.C. #13909
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBaker8011
Seeking help to figure my issue(s) out. I have a 2019 3791RD and cannot for the life of me watch satellite through the conventional hook-up where the water supply side is located. I have a portable Dish system (Tailgater) with a Wally receiver. I have to wire the satellite through the living room window directly to the Wally receiver and HDMI from the Wally to the TV. That works fine but I don't want to remove the screen and keep the window open. When I hook it up to the Satellite input and then from the satellite jack in the living room to the Wally it does not work.
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Do you have a model new enough to have the Key TV panel in the convenience compartment?
If not make sure you can identify the cable connector that says Living Room Satellite and the other end in the TV area. Mine was mislabeled at the TV.
Also those portable Satellite antennas like the Tailgater can only drive 50' of cable. So use as short a cable as possible outside since you have a lot of cable inside.
Test by using a 10' cable and set the tailgater on the roof or ground near the convenience center.
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2014 Montana 3402RL Level UP, Sailun S637's, TST 507, 500W solar
2014 Ram 3500 Laramie® 4x2 diesel dually crew-cab 3.73 axle, Reese R20
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