2010 Ford F250 vs F350 - Montana Owners Club

CowboyHippyPirate · 02-02-2018, 07:59 PM

I have heard from several people that should "know" that the only difference in hauling ability between the 250 and 350 (non-dually) is purely the badging on the truck. Any mechanics out there that can confirm or deny the truth to that?

ExPatNW · 02-02-2018, 08:38 PM

This thread seems to discuss all the differences: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-f350-srw.html

Ex F350 (6yrs) now pulling with a F450
Chris

CowboyHippyPirate · 02-02-2018, 08:45 PM

Thanks ExPatNW. If I read that thread correctly its looks like the 2010 Ford F250 Diesel and the Ford F350 (Single Rear Wheel) are NO different other than the rear spacer block and badges. I knew the rear block was different when I put a leveling kit on my F250. Of course tires are always an issue to look at. I pull my Montana 3725RL with my F250 and Im always a little nervous if Im overloading the amount of weight on the trucks rear tires.

BB_TX · 02-02-2018, 08:54 PM

I don’t profess to know all the differences. But casually looking at them on dealer lots I can say that some F250s have the extra spring on the rear that the F350 has. And some do not. I assume that is some option package for the F250. I would think that would certainly make a difference in payload rating.

Dam Worker · 02-02-2018, 09:19 PM

I am not an expert on that year but on the earlier years I used to know more than most of the salesman. Some of the differences could be camper and or snow plow packages. That usually has to do with front spring capacity. It can also add a rear axle stabilizer bar. Also most 1 tons had a taller spring pack block and an overload spring. On the earlier Superdutys the frame was the same even ncluding the DRW. The major difference was usually the dually had a bigger rear end . I can not for sure say the same is true for your year. One thing about it is the nice little sticker says what the ratings are in any legal matter.
Good luck in your quest. Two of my coworkers bought brand new 3/4 ton dodges even when advised to buy the one ton. Both upgraded to the one ton in less than two years.
Happy roads to you.

Thomas Marty

jeffba · 02-03-2018, 05:16 AM

I can only speak about the 2017s. The difference is the rear spring, they add one for the F350

mlh · 02-03-2018, 07:13 AM

The 250 and 350s are the same except for the rear springs. The rear end gear ratio can be different but they may be the same. They have the same breaks, same part numbers. The badging on them is different and that is about it. Go to your Ford dealer and see for your self, ask them to look up some part numbers on some different parts, break shoe and such to see for yourself. Don’t take my word see for yourself.
Lynwood

greische · 02-03-2018, 07:41 AM

To start, I have been around Fords for 40 years (I used to sell them). I own a 2015 so I presume the basic layout is the same for the 2017/2018 model. On the single rear wheel models, the frame, brakes, tires, shocks and drivetrain are the same. The only difference is the rear springs. The standard F250 spring pack does not include the overload spring unless the truck has a "camper package". If it does the rear springs are the same. The overloads make a huge difference. I had a 250 when I bought my first 5er. I had to reinforce the rear springs. Towing the same trailer with my newer 350, it sat much nicer with the factory springs. My recommendation is to buy the 350 for the weight sticker. A diesel 250 gross is 10,000 while a comparable 350 is 11,500 and the price of the truck is literally a couple hundred dollars more. To me, it is much more the "legal" thing

greische · 02-03-2018, 07:43 AM

one thing I forgot. The rear axle on the 250 has a rating of 6100 lbs while the 350 is 7000 lbs. On a 250, by the time you add the weight of a hitch (mine weighs 300 lbs) and the pin weight of the trailer you are adding a lot of weight to the back of the truck. as an example, my last 5er brochure pin weight was 1950. Actual weight when if left the factory was 2150. When I weighed it on a Cat scale loaded, the pin weight was actually 2750. On my 250, I was overweight. On my new trailer, brochure pin weight is 2500. I weighed it on the way home. My rear axle weight was 6400, which on my 350SRW is fine but if I owned a 250 I would be over the rear GVWR of 6100

richfaa · 02-03-2018, 04:00 PM

Our 2008 F-350 Dually ordered with the snow plow package and the camper package has a GVR of 13K and 9K rear axles.

Golfmedik · 02-04-2018, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by greische

To start, I have been around Fords for 40 years (I used to sell them). I own a 2015 so I presume the basic layout is the same for the 2017/2018 model. On the single rear wheel models, the frame, brakes, tires, shocks and drivetrain are the same. The only difference is the rear springs. The standard F250 spring pack does not include the overload spring unless the truck has a "camper package". If it does the rear springs are the same. The overloads make a huge difference. I had a 250 when I bought my first 5er. I had to reinforce the rear springs. Towing the same trailer with my newer 350, it sat much nicer with the factory springs. My recommendation is to buy the 350 for the weight sticker. A diesel 250 gross is 10,000 while a comparable 350 is 11,500 and the price of the truck is literally a couple hundred dollars more. To me, it is much more the "legal" thing

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Originally Posted by greische

one thing I forgot. The rear axle on the 250 has a rating of 6100 lbs while the 350 is 7000 lbs. On a 250, by the time you add the weight of a hitch (mine weighs 300 lbs) and the pin weight of the trailer you are adding a lot of weight to the back of the truck. as an example, my last 5er brochure pin weight was 1950. Actual weight when if left the factory was 2150. When I weighed it on a Cat scale loaded, the pin weight was actually 2750. On my 250, I was overweight. On my new trailer, brochure pin weight is 2500. I weighed it on the way home. My rear axle weight was 6400, which on my 350SRW is fine but if I owned a 250 I would be over the rear GVWR of 6100

Dead on! Great explanation. Also, one reason is for registration purposes in some northeastern states as the registration is higher on F350s and 3500 single rear wheel trucks than it is on the 250/2500s. In some of these states, an F450 is a registered and has to have commercial insurance even if it's bought for personal use due to the weight stickers on the truck. Crazy I know. That is one of the reasons why we still have the "3/4 ton" trucks is to get by those registrations as they are taxed less.

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