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04-24-2019, 03:41 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 469
M.O.C. #10933
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Any is suspension problems?
I have had a number of susp. problems with the stock suspension and am considering IS, but are there any issues with this expensive addition?
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04-24-2019, 03:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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This may help:
https://www.morryde.com/uploads/down...e%20Manual.pdf
Looks like shocks, grease, proper torque. We are having ours installed after this years ralley.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
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04-24-2019, 05:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We have had the IS on both our 063400 and this 13 3402 Montana. We are long timers and do a LOT of miles. We considered the OEM suspension the weakest part of the 5th wheel. We upgraded both within the 1st 6 months of ownership.. Wwe have not had a single problem with the IS system in over 130K of travel.
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04-25-2019, 08:10 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Had it on our old rig for 70,000 miles and now on our new rig for around 10,000. Wouldn't have a rig without it.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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04-25-2019, 08:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,896
M.O.C. #9561
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the only problem with the IS is the initial cost of around $7K with disc brakes.
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04-25-2019, 09:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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Good tires, good suspension and good wheels makes for thousands of trouble free miles when traveling. If I am going to have problems with my rv I certainly don't want it on the side of the road. The reason why I mentioned wheels is because I had to replace all my wheels on account 2 of them cracked while traveling.
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04-25-2019, 10:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,350
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artfuldodger
I have had a number of susp. problems with the stock suspension and am considering IS, but are there any issues with this expensive addition?
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What sort of problems with the stock suspension, other then needing to replace shear springs,I have had no issues
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04-25-2019, 11:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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All my failures were on the streetside, 2 Shar springs, and then the rear most greasible bolt snapped in half. That was it for me to go i.s. route.
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04-25-2019, 04:39 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Nampa
Posts: 114
M.O.C. #21247
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If you have the extra cash. It’s definitely worth the investment. I have about 6,000 miles on mine since Morryde installed last November. Your trailer will last a lot longer with the independent suspension.
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04-25-2019, 08:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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I had one of my shackle bolts break and would shift my right rear axle back when going forward and forward when backing. Noticed this when my tire was wearing on the outside excessively on that one axle. I was already on the list for IS at Mor-Ryde but this just confirmed I was making the right decision. This also helped my wife understand why I needed the IS. The IS might not be for everyone but if you do travel long distances instead of just being a weekend camper then it is well worth the money for the peace of mind and the much better ride quality compared to the leaf and shackle setup.
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04-26-2019, 08:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 469
M.O.C. #10933
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I have a 2017 3720, bought in Aug. of 2016. While driving home from Ariz. to our home near Toronto(Owen Sound) l lost a spring hanger bolt and correct track discs. I fixed. While driving home from Goshen Indiana I lost a different bolt and discs. I fixed. The next trip to Ariz., I lost yet another bolt and disc set. These are all from different locations. The tires are now showing uneven wear. This year, in Ariz., the rear axle rear spring hangers broke off the frame. A local guy welded them back on but not before he burned thru an hydraulic line. I fixed. On the way home the tires are really showing wear so I stopped at a truck stop to change one. I then noticed I had broken springs on the rear axle, both left and right. Apache RV in St. Louis Mo. fixed for $2300. The next day, the shackles on the rear axle loosened enough to allow the right side to travel to the back of the spring while the other side moved up to the morryde rubber strut holder thingy, which cut the tire severely. I fixed on the side of the interstate in the rain. Iwe finally made it home. Other than the above, the suspension has been wonderful. I now need new tires.
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04-26-2019, 08:13 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 469
M.O.C. #10933
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Subsequent to the above post we now have to decide whether to install IS or to buy a used Class A motorhome. We have been towing something since 1982 but this suspension takes the cake.
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04-29-2019, 05:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Chatsworth
Posts: 469
M.O.C. #10933
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Suspension
Well I set a date for IS/disc brakes today. The earliest appt. available is late Sept. These stock trailer susps. are obviously not winning much trust from rv owners.
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04-29-2019, 06:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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It's all this crap OEM suspension that's keeping MORryde in business.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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04-29-2019, 08:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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Quote:
Originally Posted by artfuldodger
Well I set a date for IS/disc brakes today. The earliest appt. available is late Sept. These stock trailer susps. are obviously not winning much trust from rv owners.
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Much cheaper solution compared to a Class A pusher.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
16.8KWhr LiFePO4, 2.52 kw solar, 10kva Victron split phase
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04-29-2019, 08:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Minden - NV
Posts: 501
M.O.C. #22360
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When I did my Summerization (aka dewinterization) a few weeks ago, I checked the brakes, added a little grease to the zerks, axles, springs, frame, bleed the brakes, and then I checked the wet bolts. At least four or five of them were not fully tightened. They weren't loose, but I could almost get a full turn on them. I can imagine they'd fallout or fail in time if I had not checked them. I don't plan on upgrading to the IS suspension, but I know I'm checking the bolt torque on the spring hardware more often.
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05-01-2019, 02:10 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Richmond, TX
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #20452
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What setting do you torque the suspension bolts to? All the same or different torques for different positions?
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2012 Keystone Montana 3150RL 5th Wheel
2012 Ford F350 Diesel 4x4 Lariat Crewcab SRW
6.7L V-8 diesel, 6-sp automatic, 3.55 axle ratio
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05-01-2019, 03:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,350
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goodellj
What setting do you torque the suspension bolts to? All the same or different torques for different positions?
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Wet bolts are 50 lbs. The older LRE suspension 40 on the shear spring bolts, 45 on the shear spring brackets .
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