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Old 02-04-2007, 08:41 AM   #1
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New Dodge Ram 3500 GVWR?

Was at my dealer having the beast serviced on Friday. I asked my sales guy why it was that Dodge (and some others) listed the GVWR on the SRW 3500 as 9,900 lbs when the combined GAWR is 11,400lbs?. I have noted that other manufacturers and manufacturers of motorhomes list the GVWR as the sum of the front and rear axle GAWR. He indicated that he did not know why Dodge and others do that (we both suspect there is some legal reason) but said that Dodge would be changing the GVWR to equal the sum of the GAWRs. He also indicated that Dodge was coming out with a 4500 pick-up in the not too distant future. Rumors are fun!

Did a search and did not see this tidbit discussed. If it has been, will delete.

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Old 02-04-2007, 09:07 AM   #2
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their trying to keep up with the competition.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:17 PM   #3
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I also heard a "rumor" that may have something to do with the 4500# pick-up. There may be a new diesel coming to Dodge. Has anyone heard this also?
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Old 02-04-2007, 01:52 PM   #4
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The reason for the two axles not equalling the GVWR is so we have some flexibility in loading our trucks. You can load either axle to it's max rating as long as you do not exceed either axle's rating or the GVWR when the two weights are combined.
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Old 02-04-2007, 02:02 PM   #5
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The GVWR of any brand of pickup is always less than the sum of the axle ratings.

My 05 SRW F350 has a 5600 front axle rating and a 7000 pound rear axle rating. This is 12600 total.

My GVWR is 11200 and the reason for the higher axle ratings is a safety factor IMHO. For warranty and legal requirements, the lower GVWR is the figure that is used and this statistic stays with the truck from the assembly line to the scrapyard.
THERE IS NO LEGAL WAY TO CHANGE YOUR GVWR. I don't make this stuff up. I am not a weight policeman and I only post this stuff to help people that want to research a TV choice. I don't really care if someone decides to haul a Montana with a Honda Ridgeline. It his choice to do that, but not his right to convince others that it is a wise thing to do.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:18 AM   #6
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I understand that there may be a number of reasons why the GVWR is less than the sum of the GAWRs. Interesting, however, that well-established manufacturers of motor homes such as Winnebago show the GVWR as the sum of GAWRs in their literature. If Dodge does, indeed, increase the GVWR on their pick-ups, I wonder if they will simply add the GAWRs or will actually use stronger axles.

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Old 02-05-2007, 03:49 PM   #7
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Bill, I don't have facts, just what I've read. That is that the frame is what is holding down the GVWR. Ford's went up in 2005 when they went to the much stronger frame, front suspension, and brakes.
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