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08-21-2006, 06:24 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Poulsbo
Posts: 27
M.O.C. #6142
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Extra freshwater tank installation?
Has anyone installed an extra freshwater tank? We take our trailer to football games and that is always dry camping. We run out of freshwater before we run out of black water storage. Grey water can be "dumped" by the the bucketful or into another container if necessary. We have been talking about putting another freshwater tank in the basement storage area with a pump and a switch. Anyone tried this?
Cheri
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08-21-2006, 08:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs
Posts: 3,711
M.O.C. #3120
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Cheri,
The biggest problem with carrying extra water is the weight. A gallon of water weighs over 7 lbs.
Here is what I am planning to use for boondocking. I haven't bought it yet, but plan to. I looked for it at CW in Fife, but they did not have it in stock, so guess you can only order it online.
http://tinyurl.com/hkbhz
Robbie
Peace!
Robbie & Alice Simons
Seattle
2006 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4 SWB Laramie (LNRNGR)
2006 2980RL (TONTOW)
Line-X bed liner
Jacobs Exhaust Brake
Prodigy Brake Controller
Hijacker 24-UMS-21 Hitch
Start Fulltiming 10/2006
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08-21-2006, 04:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Troy
Posts: 1,980
M.O.C. #808
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Cheri, are you sure you have your fresh water tank is full when you go to these football games. That seems like you are using a lot of water. When I know I'm going to need a lot of water, I fill the fresh tank till water comes out the breather hole. That much water will last us around four days with both of us showering every day. I would not add that much more weight to pull around very far.
Steve&Patti 2004 model 3280
2002 Duramax 4x4 crew cab SB
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08-21-2006, 06:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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There are a lot of containers for water that are sold for tenting camping. I use to have one that rode on top of the car long ago when I tent camped. Friends of mine use to buy a new galvanized trash can each year and fill in with water for camping. Water has to have some bleach in it but it works. Ten gallons use to last us all weekend for dishes, hands, etc.
Happy trails........................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL 2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed
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08-21-2006, 08:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pasco
Posts: 986
M.O.C. #5972
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Let's see...45 X 7 = 315#...that sounds like a lot of weight on your pickup roof. I have been told that most roofs aren't designed to take more that 100#s or so. You might want to check with your pickup dealer.
Mike
F350 7.3L LB SRW
2003 3575RL
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08-22-2006, 08:09 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Harwinton
Posts: 126
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When we boondock we take along a couple of 5 gallon water pails and a cordless drill which is used to drive a simple in/out transfer plastic pump, Hook pump to clear plastic hoses cut to size also a funnel to direct water into the tank on trailer. Refill as needed. Not much to carry and not much time involved, less than two minutes to pump per pail.
Jon
Jon & Jo Ann
Harwinton, CT
2000 Ford PSD, SC, SD,
4x4 lariot, short bed
2001 2955 5th wheel
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08-22-2006, 10:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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Jon
That sounds like a great yet simple system. We found a battery operated pump that goes into the 5 gal water jugs. We used it when we were parked for several years. There was a water store in that town where you could refill the 5 gal jugs.
Happy trails..............................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL 2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed
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08-22-2006, 11:29 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Poulsbo
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M.O.C. #6142
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Thanks for feedback! Some great thoughts, including the ideas offered by Jon and Robbie. We will check out these other options.
We take extra water containers with us and fill them when we get to Pullman (300 miles from our home). We wouldn't be traveling with full tanks so the weight isn't a major issue. In fact, we leave our trailer in Pullman for the football season so we don't have to drag it back and forth over the mountains every couple of weeks in the fall and winter.
We really do use a lot of water, but partly that is because we take 2-4 teenage girls with us AND we have lots of friends meeting us at the games.
Cheri
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08-25-2006, 03:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: none
Posts: 1,566
M.O.C. #1043
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Cheri, Just a though< Why not ask friends to bring a 5 gal. plastic bottle with them to help out on water supply?
"This Is The Life"
Wendell & Margaret
2004 Montana 2980RL
2006 Chevy.2500HD-Duramax,Allison Tran.
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08-25-2006, 03:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 1,574
M.O.C. #1358
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That's what we do at our lake property too...you're welcome to use the shower, but bring a 5 gallon container of water with you, or if someone makes a run to town, get some more water.
327RKS
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08-26-2006, 07:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clearwater
Posts: 10,917
M.O.C. #420
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Saw this in this months issue of "Hiways" and immediately thought of this thread.
Glenn
Montana Owners Home Page
RV Related Links
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01-07-2007, 03:42 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The Dalles
Posts: 94
M.O.C. #6613
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We carry to 5-6 gal gerry cans that I have bunge corded to the top of the front basement (above the landing jack rod). With my short hoses (10' & 25') and a funnel I can fill these 5-8 times and refill the freshwater tank on our 3400 RL. If it's a long way in the campground I use either my muscular nephews or grandchildren. In a real pinch I will lift them myself .
It really doesn't take that long. We have a family reunion once a year, and all of the nephews and other RV owners in our group use our gerry cans.
Take care,
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01-07-2007, 09:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 5,316
M.O.C. #15
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Cheri
Has anyone installed an extra freshwater tank? We take our trailer to football games and that is always dry camping. We run out of freshwater before we run out of black water storage. Grey water can be "dumped" by the the bucketful or into another container if necessary. We have been talking about putting another freshwater tank in the basement storage area with a pump and a switch. Anyone tried this?
Cheri
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I was confused when I first read this post. My thoughts, like some of the others, was that you weren't filling your tank. Or you had an undiscovered leak. So I thought we had a real mystery on our hands! But then I read in a later post that "teenagers" are involved! Suddenly the mystery was solved! Especially if the teenagers are girls.
Your best bet is to carry extra water as has been suggested. Another option would be to check in the town where you have your rig and see if there is a service that will provide water and or drain your tanks. While in Quartzsite last year we had the water wagon come by and fill up our water tanks and another truck came and emptied our holding tanks. About $10 for water and $15 or 20 for the dumping. Took them just a few minutes to do both functions.
Good luck.
HamRad
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01-08-2007, 01:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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I lived in Spain in the 70's and we had to tote our h20 from the base in 5 gal containers. I swore after leaving there that I would never tote water again. So far I have kept my word.
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01-08-2007, 01:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oakland
Posts: 887
M.O.C. #5811
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We were going to do desert camping and I wanted to have a extra water supply. I was going to get a 40 gallon plastic tank and install it in truck bed behind the cab and have a 12 volt pump to transfer the water to RV's water tank. Water tanks are available at farm/ranch supply stores in many sizes. I can see how you would empty the Monty's tank with 4 girls around.
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01-08-2007, 03:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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Phil,
Why were you in Spain? In the Navy? My daughter was in the Navy in Spain.
Happy trails...................
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01-08-2007, 04:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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Sue/Ed, I was in the Air Force Stationed at Torrejon, near Madrid. Medic. Loved it, quite an experience especially when Generalisimo Franco died. I picked up a car at Rota Naval base in Southern Spain. Only time there.
Phil
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01-21-2007, 08:11 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Buford
Posts: 285
M.O.C. #6735
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I take a clean 55 gallon plastic drum in the bed of my truck to my hunting boondock I park the truck next to the camper on slight rise and siphon the water in the tank.
My wife and I shower, wash dishes, cook and can go for 4-5 days on a full freshwater tank. I don't think your filling your tank all the way.
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