I don't know about the rest of you..... - Montana Owners Club

Glenn and Lorraine · 10-18-2004, 11:55 AM

but I am about to sell my Duramax and go back to gas. I do not understand why the diesel prices keep shooting up and up while gasoline is remaining about the same. I arrived in St Pete a week ago Saturday and diesel was 2.01 per gal. A week ago today the diesel price was 2.03 per gal. Couple days later it was 2.11. Today it's 2.17 and that is the cheapest diesel I could find in a 20 mile radius. Some stations are up to 2.35 a gallon. Gasoline was around 1.93, today it's 1.97. Just last April I was paying 1.48 for diesel at the exact same station while gasoline prices were around 1.80
And what I really don't understand is why the truckers are just sitting back while the oil companies rape us with these high prices. Years ago the truckers went on strike for the same reasons and did effect some roll backs. What are they waiting for?
I said last year that I would not allow high fuel prices to but a damper on our rving plans but if these prices don't stop going up and up I won't have a lot of choice. A limited income will stretch just so far.

Anyone wanna buy an 03 Duramax?

RVBUDDY · 10-18-2004, 12:00 PM

Know how you feel. But before you make the switch remember our friend Ivan shut down a lot of the production platforms in the Gulf.

Also each winter the diesel prices seem to rise due the routing for fuel oil to get the north through the winter. Or so I am told.

However, it is a bummer.

Chuck and Carol · 10-18-2004, 12:01 PM

Finally someone has written what I have been thinking for a while.
Gas today in our small town is 2.13 a gallon. Some stations 2.18.
I also notice on my way home from the vets, some trucks with for sale signs on them. I have written to our state senators but they haven't answered. I would like to know why NY can't roll back the gas tax for awhile. Heating this winter is going to be unbelievable. Now that we have both retired, we are on a fixed incomes. Might have to have a short retirement and go back to work. Desiel has been running about 3 cents higher. I thought we made a mistake not buying desiel. Guess not.

Carol

OntMont · 10-18-2004, 12:29 PM

Glenn,

You wouldn't have noticed down there in 85 degee Florida, but winter is rearing its head here in the north. Diesel and heating oil are basicly the same thing. Its going to be an expensive winter to stay home or travel. I think we'll turn the thremostat way down, head south, and stay put. (Just jealous of those temps that keep appearing at the bottom of your posts,

-- look at ours!

)

Glenn and Lorraine · 10-18-2004, 12:39 PM

In New York a lot has to do with the TAXES.
This summer at Black Lake NY, 45 minutes NE of Watertown, diesel was 2.03 ger gallon at the local Sunoco. Drive just 45 minutes up to Messena and the Indian Reservation diesel was 1.52. No state tax on Indian diesel. Needless to say I spent much time commuting back and forth but at .49 cents per gallon who wouldn't. A lot of naysayers claimed Indian diesel was trash diesel not fit for todays diesel engines. Funny part about that story is my Duramax didn't miss a beat. Didn't see any difference in the MPG's either.

Chuck and Carol · 10-18-2004, 01:22 PM

We go to the reservation for gas. We have noticed they are only about 4 cents difference now. They were trying to compromise with the state about what they charge for gas and cigarettes. This was supposed to be part of the land settlement or something. Hopefully this last gas hike this week hasn't reached the reservation. We fill up again to leave on Wednesday. I would think their gas wouldn't go up as much as the rest of the area. They are making a killing with the casino.

azstar · 10-18-2004, 01:40 PM

Yep,

With Fords new V10 gas, with awesome Torque, it opens that can of worms again. With the added up-front cost, as much as $6000, and added cost for routine maint. (oil changes, Fuel filters, etc.) on the Diesels, a lot of folks may have to look at gas again. Even with the better mileage of the Diesels you could never make up the difference financially.

illapah · 10-18-2004, 02:23 PM

Here in Ely, NV premium gasoline is $2.45. Diesel is the same price.

Gas engine in my new truck???????????

illapah · 10-18-2004, 02:28 PM

About the price of anything, my wife wonders all the time:

"Why is it that there is always enough of ___________ (fill in the blank) but the price goes up?"

I agree, I don't think that there is that much economizing going on to keep the supply available.

Glass Guy · 10-18-2004, 03:32 PM

The truck drivers are still on the roads because they are all company trucks and they just add fuel sur-charges to every load, I think most of the independent drivers sold their rigs and went to work for the big trucking firms. I'm surprised this has not been a big campain issue, but when your worth millions and don't have to pay for your fuel why should they care. Roman

Sue · 10-18-2004, 03:46 PM

Yeah!! but remind yourself about the beginning of summer when everyone else was paying thru the roof for regular gas and we were stealing the diesel!!! (so to speak).......

BillyRay · 10-18-2004, 04:21 PM

price does make you sick!

tnorfitz · 10-18-2004, 06:38 PM

In NE Missouri, the price of diesel is 1.99, and regular is 1.97. Not much difference, except the added mileage you get with the diesel.

Montana Sky · 10-18-2004, 07:03 PM

Up here in the Northwest diesel seems to be running between $2.38 to $2.66 a gallon. I would have to agree, the price of fuel is getting a tad bit on the steep side. I do remember when I had bought my first diesel truck back in 2002 and fuel was a wopping 94 cents a gallon. Those were the days. I do like the average mileage I am getting when not towing at 21.7 on highway and 18.4 in town. Just rolled 16,000 miles on the truck so I am assuming that my mpg is going to keep getting better as the motor breaks in. The fuel stations around here are saying diesel fuel might reach as high as $3.25 a gallon by mid December. I guess that still is cheaper than a gallon of milk. =)

BillyRay · 10-18-2004, 09:35 PM

yeah, but a cow may be cheaper!

Montana_621 · 10-19-2004, 07:52 AM

I agree that diesel is horrible right now! I have been paying $2.19/gallon here in MN when it used to be $1.69 not a month ago!

I'm hoping it is going to go back down but I guess I won't hold my breath.

vickster · 10-19-2004, 10:13 AM

BillyRay - "Yeah, but a cow may be cheaper!" -- Don't know about that, for the price of hay these days may be inflated as well with trucking sircharges!!!!

Sue · 10-19-2004, 11:13 AM

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quote:Originally posted by vickster
Don't know about that, for the price of hay these days may be inflated as well with trucking sircharges!!!!

Would you believe it's over $3.00 a bale now? Our trainer used to pay $1.60

Glenn and Lorraine · 10-19-2004, 01:45 PM

Let's put this in perspective...
$3.00 per bale = 1 HP
$2.17 per gallon = 300 HP

HHHMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm

Dave e Victoria · 10-19-2004, 03:36 PM

That was cute, Glenn. I also heard,one time, that if the automobile had never been invented all of our roads today would be ten feet deep in horse****. Sorry about that. Couldn't help myself.

Seriously though, we have to recognize that we can never drill ourselves out of the petroleum problem. We have introduced China to the enjoyment of the automobile as well as many other energy consuming pleasures. They and other markets around the world are beginning to seriously compete with the US for petroleum. The result will be ever increasing prices for Diesel as well as gasolene, plastic, and all of the other petro products. I will go out on a limb and predict $5.00 per gallon within the period of the next administration. The only solution is alternative energy and severe conservation. It could very well affect our lives as RV devotees. I don't even want to conmtemplate the impact on the other parts of our economy. Sorry if I sound a bit cynical. Maybe as a retiree I have too much time to contemplate these things.

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