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01-16-2019, 10:20 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location:
Posts: 58
M.O.C. #14360
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Electricity or Propane?
For the first time, we are spending 2 months in our Montana. On top of that, we are in the Denver area, in January. Therefore, we are trying to figure out if it is better to use, Propane or Electric? I know, to be accurate, we need to compare the cost per Kwh and the cost per Gallon of Propane. Here, the propane is about $3.50 but I don't know what the Electric Cost is. Therefore, the question is more GENERAL. For you long timers, which is usually more cost effective? To heat, we can use either the Propane FAU or the Electric Fireplace. For the WH, we can choose Gas or Electric, as we can on the Refrigerator. We would love to hear your opinions!
Thank You!
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01-16-2019, 11:52 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fowler
Posts: 414
M.O.C. #12748
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Here is my opinion.....Electricity is my choice as it is delivered to me and I don't have to carry it and install it. II would also bet at $3.50 a gallon, it is also the most economical. If the temps get too low you will need to heat your basement to avoid frozen lines, if this is the case, then the furnace would be the choice.
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01-16-2019, 12:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,169
M.O.C. #6433
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Aside from cost, we typically run the water heater on electric only unless it is quite cold. Then, because the incoming water is cold, we operate it on both electric and propane simultaneously to improve the heat recovery time and give longer lasting showers.
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Riley, our Golden
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01-16-2019, 01:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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It was in the mid 20's here in Florida a few years ago and we used a tank of propane every 4 days or less. We use electric for everything as it is easy to use don't care what it cost we need it so we use it.
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01-16-2019, 04:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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I'm surprised no one has asked you if electricity is included in your site rent. That would make a HUGE difference in which to use.
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01-16-2019, 04:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Electric is good if on shore power. Our monty has a fireplace and an under floor heater in the bath and bed rooms. If no shore power the most efficient for us is the camco wave 6 propane heater. It is my favorite as it is steady heat meaning no hot/cold temp fluctuations, dead quiet, and fuel consumption is very low.
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01-16-2019, 07:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Electric is included in our monthly rent here, so electric it is but if it gets to 32 to 30 I use our propane to heat and to supplement the water heater when taking showers.
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01-17-2019, 05:48 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Summerville
Posts: 375
M.O.C. #8908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DadsHemi
Electric is included in our monthly rent here, so electric it is but if it gets to 32 to 30 I use our propane to heat and to supplement the water heater when taking showers.
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That's what we do. Frozen water lines can be very expensesive. Are WH works good on electric, but with porpane you get faster recovery.
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2019 "3791RD" Montana - 2019 Chevy Duramax/Allison 3500 Crewcab
Summerville, South Carolina
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01-17-2019, 06:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,896
M.O.C. #9561
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You aren't going to get a good answer since you don't know what the Kwh is.
but when camping at campgrounds where electric is included, always use electric.
but, in general I prefer electric heat in the trailer because the furance is loud and comes on all the time. We have the fireplace and a small electric heater that covers most of our needs.
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01-17-2019, 08:54 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Omaha
Posts: 143
M.O.C. #21598
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I have bee set up for the last month in Kansas and, this is the first winter with the Monty. My electric is .16 kw. Propane is about 3.50 from the campground and, 2.90 from tractor supply. If the temps are below 30 I’ve been using the furnace and fireplace as well as a small electric heater. Above 30 I’ve been using the heat pump along with the other two. WH is on electric. It took a few days to figure out a good combination to keep things warm and cozy and, have the furnace cycle less frequently and use less propane. So far I have used approximately $80 in propane and, won’t see the electric bill for another week.
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01-18-2019, 04:49 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location:
Posts: 58
M.O.C. #14360
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Since I am on a month to month lease, they are metering the electric so I pay that separately. Trying to use as little propane as possible since that seems to be more expensive over time. But also watching the electric use as that adds up too. Thank you for all the answers.
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01-19-2019, 06:14 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Posts: 210
M.O.C. #20361
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This is our second winter here in southern Idaho and we use the furnace set at 69 at night and about 72 day. And we use the fireplace all but sleepy time. We had a tank set so propane is $2 per gal. Toasty warm! Price be damned! Sure wish we had made it to quartzite this year
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Chica and Baby (the fury kids)
2014 3402rl
2017 Ram 3500 6.7 ctd. 4x4 srw
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01-23-2019, 01:57 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Sanford
Posts: 33
M.O.C. #19237
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If you are referring to your heat, you will find that if the temps drop below 40 and there is moisture in the air, you will have to run propane. Trying to use the heat pump in those conditions will make it cycle; the condenser freezes up, the unit shuts off until it thaws back out. Sounds like it's trying to burn up up there.
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01-23-2019, 03:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Ardrossan
Posts: 729
M.O.C. #9261
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Heating with propane can get expensive when you consider the efficiency of an rv furnace. A major amount of the heat is going out the exhaust! Electrical is more efficient as all the heat is captured in your unit. We generally use electricity when available, as mentioned earlier one does not have to handle bottles that can get heavy as we get older.
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01-23-2019, 03:28 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Rexville
Posts: 16
M.O.C. #23100
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If we are staying at a campground and the price includes electric, then it's a no brainer. We use their electric for everything. We started travelling full time in June 2018 down the East coast, and never had to pay seperately for electric. We are currently staring to head out west. Is this common out there to pay seperately for your electricity? Curious to know what you decide, but I would think that that time, transportation and cost of propane would be more expensive than electricity, but having said that, there are many factors which may increase usage (such as running 2 ACUs). Coversely, you are also using propane for cooking and/or heat... increasing your amount being used and the time/money it costs going to get it. Good luck.
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01-23-2019, 03:35 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Rexville
Posts: 16
M.O.C. #23100
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Great discussion. Wondering what you recommend for electrical heat besides a fireplace (if your unit comes with it)?
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01-23-2019, 03:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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You need to use the furnace in cold weather to get heat to the underbelly and the water lines.
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01-23-2019, 08:07 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Simonton
Posts: 46
M.O.C. #22485
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We spent 5 months working in Grand Teton last year (going back in May as I am the new campground manager of Colter Bay Campground) and we tried to use our furnace as little as possible. We used our fireplace heater and set up a small electric in the bedroom. When the temp was going to get below freezing I also set up a small electric in the cargo area which heated the underside and kept the water lines from freezing. It worked for us but our electricity was free.
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01-23-2019, 08:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Chico
Posts: 269
M.O.C. #14041
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The furnace and the waterheater are very much inefficient when on gas. Just stand beside the exhaust of either and realize that more than half the heat is blown outside. We live full time and use elect. For both. We have two supplemental plug in heaters. One plugs into the washer outlet, the other in the wall outlet. All three work just fine, we are careful if we add additional heating items, toaster, hairdryer, etc. We only add gas heat to the waterheater if we have a large drain of hot water, doing dishes and showers or multiple showers at the same time. When it gets cold, 27 degrees or so we leave the kitchen faucet drip. Another idea I have but have not neeed it is to place a 25 watt light fixture in the plumbing area of the basement.
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01-23-2019, 10:59 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Marcos
Posts: 12
M.O.C. #19075
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The wife and I have been full-timing for a couple of years on the Oregon coast. The temps out her can fluctuate quite a bit in the winter months (20-50’s). We have found the following works for us when the temps dip.
We purchased a lasko heater from Costco (one of the ceramic models for about 60 bucks) that we use to warm the bedroom area at night. We set the thermostat on the portable heater to around 55 at night. We use a thick comforter and block the bottom of the door with a small pillow. Because the bedroom is so small, the 55 degree temp is pretty warm.
When we wake, I’ll set the main thermostat at 68 and run the propane. It usually runs for about 20-30 minutes. After the heater goes off, I put the fireplace on in thermostat mode and set it to 70. This keeps it pretty Nice throughout the day. I can get about a month out of 14 gallons of propane. My electric bill runs about 50 bucks (50 amp svc) a month.
One thing you will notice is condensation. I have two 1 gallon buckets of damp rid that are located in the bathroom and bedroom. I purchased a small dehumidifier from amazon for 65.00 bucks that sits in the kitchen area. I was really surprised about how much water it pulls out of the trailer.
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