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Old 04-28-2010, 05:29 PM   #1
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Montana tire replacements

I was planning to put on the Goodyear G614 tires on my Montana but my rims are only rated for 80 lbs.I've been running Tacoma tires for 5 years without any problems to date and would like to know what tires to replace with a 80 lbs rating.I make one trip to Fl and back to NY.I'm not sure if I can get the same tire made in USA.So I was wondering what the MOC members are using
I'm not going to 110 lbs tires,the 80 lbs taccmas worked good they are just getting old and I'm staying with 80 lbs and I was looking for a good replacement tire.
 
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:57 PM   #2
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Hopefully Lonnie will be along with some good advice. In the meantime, your 2005 3295 had LT Tacoma's on 6K axles. There are a bunch of good to excellent non-China manufactured LT tires around. The Tacoma's are Load Range E (3000+ Lb. rated) and more than sufficient for your 6K axles. The G614 are for the folks with 7K axles that don't want the China made ST "bombs". They would be overkill for your rig.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:25 PM   #3
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My Big Sky is heavier than your rig, and I went with G614's. I bought new rims to take the 110 PSI. Best thing I ever did for tires. Perhaps Carl is right, and they would be overkill, but the way I see it is if you can afford the very best, it is great piece of mind!
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:29 PM   #4
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I did a lot of research before I replaced our tires and decided to go with the BF Goodrich Commercial T/A. I have been very happy with them, and so far they are wearing very well.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:12 AM   #5
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As Washley1 said - I too went with the G614's and the later found out my rims were only rated for 80#. I then had to replace the rims. It seems that Keystone is getting rims and tires already mounted from their suppliers. Sometimes they have 80# rated rims and other times they have 110# rims. My previous 05 3400 had 110# rims so I assumed by BS being heavier would have the same...not so. In any case after blowing up two of the Carlisle ST tires, I feel musch safer and removed the worry of when the next tire was going to blow.
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:25 AM   #6
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Tomorrow I get what Papabeav has, for the same reason. Have to go up to 85's from the stock 80's to get them or most anything not from China.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:36 AM   #7
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We have Firestone Transport HT 235/85r16E(10 ply rated) on our 2000 3555RL- They have approx. 4000 miles on and show no wear yet- Our unit weighs 15k plus- I also had the same tire on the steer axle of the 1 ton dually TV- A tire made in the US or Canada- Good luck with your choice- Don
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:05 PM   #8
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my question to the tire people is this. If you go with the highter rated tire ie:110psi and kept your rims, why can't you air them up at 80psi? The new tire is overrated for the trailer weight if I am not mistaken, if so, I thought the only reason you would put 110psi in the tire is when it is at it's max load rateing. Since the trailer is lighter than the max load of the tire,what reason would you need to go to max pressure? On the side of all the tires I have seen it says that to air them to xx at maximum load. Am I wrong or what???
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:26 PM   #9
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I think the deal is that tire installers are required by law to not put a tire capable of more pressure than the rim. Must be an assumption that it could be dangerous to a person who airs up based on scribbles on the tire without realizing there are scribbles on the rim.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:50 PM   #10
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I think the deal is that tire installers are required by law to not put a tire capable of more pressure than the rim. Must be an assumption that it could be dangerous to a person who airs up based on scribbles on the tire without realizing there are scribbles on the rim.
I honestly don't know that it's required by law, but should a wheel explode because someone exceeded the maximum psi the wheel is rated for, the installer could possibly be held liable.

racerjoe, your thinking logically and you are absolutely right. The problem would be finding someone willing to install the 110 psi rated tires on 80 psi rated wheels. There have been so many frivolous lawsuits won by people wanting to blame someone else for their own actions, folks in the tire business (most other businesses too) are afraid to do anything that isn't "by the book".

garyka, if you choose to go with an LT235/85R16 vs an ST235/80R16, you will find there are many options. PapaBeav and camper4 have both mentioned the BFG Commercial TA, an excellent tire as is the Firestone Transforce H/T mentioned by DonandJudy. Some people like the Michelin XPS Rib, another excellent choice if price isn't a factor. I personally prefer the Bridgestone Duravis R500 Commercial LT.

If you wish to stay with an ST rated tire, I have found the Maxxis M8008 to be a very dependable tire.


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Old 04-30-2010, 04:00 AM   #11
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We just added BFG Commercial TA to our 07/3400 and with just 1000 miles on them this past couple of weeks we are very pleased with them. Finally, peace of mind has returned while towing the 5er, PRICELESS!!!
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:53 AM   #12
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Thanks for the response LonnieB. I can understand why they need to be so careful.
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:16 PM   #13
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Monty is finally up at our lake home!! Put BF Goodrich commercial T/As on yesterday and I felt comfortable after getting rid of the C-Bombs They asked me if I wanted the old tires back to sell to someone and I said I wouldnt give them to my own wordt enemy for free.The tire guy said he had never heard of Mission tires and I said its probably a good thing!!
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Old 07-10-2011, 08:35 AM   #14
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Here I am stalled in georgia due to a China Bomb. It took out some sheet metal on the Montana but its repairable. I can't get a tire on Sunday so tomorrow I need to get at least 1. If I can get home I'll replace with Goodyear G614's or BFG commercial T/A.
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Old 07-10-2011, 11:51 AM   #15
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Lot of differing opinions on the forum, but the China Bomb is a dangerous piece of crap is nearly a 100% consensus!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2011, 11:30 AM   #16
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Lot of differing opinions on the forum, but the China Bomb is a dangerous piece of crap is nearly a 100% consensus!!!!!
No argument here. This picture is the result of our last China Bomb blowout. And that will be the last China bomb that will ever blow out on our rig.

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Old 07-17-2011, 12:22 PM   #17
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I know there are many reasons for blowouts. But I was wondering, How many people had blowouts that use a TPMS. also how many stopped before a blowout with a TPMS .

Just wondering, kevin
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Old 07-17-2011, 03:26 PM   #18
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The Goodyear G949 is an 80lb. tire and is almost identical to the G614 in that they both use the the same premium casing; Unisteel technology; have steel reinforced sidewalls and are rib tread tires. The 949's have a bit more tread depth.
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Old 07-18-2011, 04:43 AM   #19
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Good question, Swanny, but a TPMS will tell you about a slow leak and even a faster leak but a blowout like in my picture is so sudden that no warning can get you stopped in time to avoid the damage. In the case of the blowout shown in that picture, I had checked the tires when we stopped for lunch, about an hour or so back and they were fully inflated.

I do think a lot of what we call blowouts are actually when tires ran flat and the rim cut the tire to pieces. We've had a couple of those. But in this case I heard the very distinct pop, which is why I immediately pulled onto the shoulder, as witnessed by the tire track in the picture. Unfortunately we've heard that pop several times to the point where every time we took off from somewhere I worried whether we'd have yet another tire problem. With more than 15 months on the new tires I no longer worry about it other than to keep an eye on the tires.
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