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07-30-2016, 03:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
We have had trouble free experience over the years using Firestone TransForce LT tires. Any good quality LT tire will be an improvement over the Marathon. Sailuns have a good reputation, don't know if they require the heavier rims or not.
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I mentioned this thread to my husband. We have a High Country which has the six lug 80 psi also. While I'm encouraged by the responses here, he's still not convinced. He's been told by 'tire people' that the TL is not going to work. We still have the Marathons that came on our 2015 wide body, high profile HC.
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Many, many MOC'ers, particularly those with the 6 lug rims, are using LT tires. The weight of their Montanas don't require a G rated tire, and the ST offerings have proven to be unreliable. Many problems have been documented, and not just on this forum. You should get your husband to do a search on tires here and find out for himself. If you're still willing to roll on the Marathons after that, good luck. You won't be the first to learn the hard way, nor the last. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Our 2002 and 2005 came standard with LT tires. Then Keystone came in with marathon STs on our 2010 and the even worse trailer King STs on the 2015.. To save money my guess. Have been running LTs since 2003 and no problems. The only argument I have heard is reduced sidewall flex, which I handle by taking sharp turns slowly and ensuring I pull forward and straighten my tires before final positioning in a campsite. I have never had a tire dealer refuse to put LT tires on any of my trailers.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-30-2016, 04:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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Your trailer is relatively light so any Load range E tire from one of the major tire manufacture will work just fine.
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07-30-2016, 05:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,547
M.O.C. #2283
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I agree my HC is 9200 pounds. When you put the 1900 hitch weight on the truck there is more weight on the truck tires than the trailer tires. Any good LT tire is fine.
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07-30-2016, 07:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #13325
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
We have had trouble free experience over the years using Firestone TransForce LT tires. Any good quality LT tire will be an improvement over the Marathon. Sailuns have a good reputation, don't know if they require the heavier rims or not.
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X another - just MAKE CERTAIN the installer doesn't cut off your metal valve stems!
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08-03-2016, 02:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 502
M.O.C. #7196
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I wouldn't use BFG Commercial T/A Tires. I did based on lots of advice that they were ok, but 2 had tread separations and one was recalled.
I'm now convinced cost of the tire and its weight contribute to longevity so now I run Michelin and Duravis tires, the most expensive and HEAVIEST tires.
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08-03-2016, 03:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,707
M.O.C. #7992
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My experience has been just the opposite. I got about 37K on the first set. Changed them due to age. Have about 12K on the second set. They have worn extremely well.
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quote:Originally posted by RRman
I wouldn't use BFG Commercial T/A Tires. I did based on lots of advice that they were ok, but 2 had tread separations and one was recalled.
I'm now convinced cost of the tire and its weight contribute to longevity so now I run Michelin and Duravis tires, the most expensive and HEAVIEST tires.
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2009 Ram 2500
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08-06-2016, 03:54 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: new caney
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #18819
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Michelin xps ribs are the best load range E tire on the market. The difference between these and other E rated tire is that these are ALL steel radials which means they are steel on the sidewalls as well as the tread.These tires weigh about 62 pounds each which is the same weight as the 14 ply load range G tires that are goodyear or sailuns.Michelins are i believe 15/32 inches deep tread. I know about these tires because i had them on an 38 ft. 5th wheel with 6,000 pound axles.My montana i have now has 7,000 pound axles and i have G rated sailuns on now buy i would have michelins if they made them in 14 ply load rang G's.If you look at the michelins then you will be impressed. Good Luck.
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10-15-2016, 03:17 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Springville
Posts: 30
M.O.C. #18656
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Here's a happy ending to my thread... Had a set of Michelin XPS Ribs put on the Mountie yesterday. I was indeed impressed; if hey as half as tough as they look, I'm a happy camper.
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10-16-2016, 06:07 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Crossville
Posts: 295
M.O.C. #5424
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Five years with Firestone Transforce HT's here too. No issues and wearing very well. I will replace them with another set of Transforce HT's when the time comes.
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and "Monty", our traveling/camping cat
2022 Montana 3781, 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3500HD
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10-18-2016, 02:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,298
M.O.C. #5165
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I recommend that you weigh your truck and RV fully loaded. This is critical. That is get each weight
1. Truck only with full fuel and passengers.
2. Truck and RV fully loaded.
3. RV hooked to the truck with only RV wheels on the scales.
Then you can get to rims and axles.
Yes, it may get a little complicated.
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10-29-2016, 05:35 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Albany
Posts: 52
M.O.C. #10937
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quote:Originally posted by Kenleys Oompah
Just getting started on this tire thing. My 2006 Mountaineer has wheels with six lugs. I haven't been able to verify that there are any rims rated at 110 psi for a wheel with six lugs.
Am I wrong? I want to replace my Marathons pretty quickly here. If I'm stuck with 80psi rims for this rig, do any of you have recommendations for replacement tires?
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10-29-2016, 05:41 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Albany
Posts: 52
M.O.C. #10937
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Looking at the replies to the original post on this thread, I didn't see an answer to the question about how to tell if he has rims rated at 110 psi. If you look on the inside of the rim, it will be stamped "110 psi." Our 2013 Montana 3100RL has the aluminum rims with 8 lugs, and has the 110 psi stamped on the inside of the rim.
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11-02-2016, 10:16 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Osage Beach
Posts: 96
M.O.C. #17665
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I have been trying to decide on replacement tires for my 2015 3160rl. I had decided on Advance 235/85 g rated 16" LT, (can't afford Goodyear). One tire guy I talked to said he had heard "horror " stories about insurance not covering accidents because of not having recommended tires on unit. Someone in my campground said he had tried to price tires at WalMart and was told that it was illegal to put LT tires on a fifth wheel! My insurance couldn't answer that question specifically. The sticker on camper does say ST 235/80 tires.
Anybody researched this or heard of it? Some sources online say ALL ST tires are rated at 65mph , However, one tire guy said his Gladiator ST were rated at 75mph. The speed rating is why I wanted the LT tires, we usually travel around 60-63 mph but occasionally exceed 65 downhill or when needing to pass .
The more I research, the more confused I am.
Thanks for any thoughts and guidance
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11-02-2016, 02:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,547
M.O.C. #2283
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The best thing for you to do is go talk to your insurance agent. I would bet you would be covered. I have ask my agent on several times if I would be covered and every time the answer was yes. If I was overweight, you are covered and two other times. All covered. If they insure you they pick and choose what they will cover unless it is in the policy.
Lynwood
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11-02-2016, 02:29 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Osage Beach
Posts: 96
M.O.C. #17665
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I did ask my insurance agent who couldn't/wouldn't give a definitive answer. She did a little research, saw that LT tires seemed to be the safer option and said that would be the way she would go.
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11-02-2016, 05:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,690
M.O.C. #12947
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If you want economy and still want a G rated tire, I would recommend the Sailun S637. It is designed for only trailer use, is 75 mph rated, is actually now rated as an ST tire, and is the equivalent of the Goodyear G614, even though it is made in China. You can order them in two different sizes, the 80 series as well as the 85 series, and the pricing is very good online if you can't find a local tire shop that will order them for you.
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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11-02-2016, 06:38 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Osage Beach
Posts: 96
M.O.C. #17665
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Rohrmann:
I have searched everywhere for Sailuns. I am located in Osage BeachMO. I can't even find a phone number or anyway to order online and none of my tire companies here have heard of Sailun
s nor will they try to order. Where can I order online?
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11-03-2016, 02:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,547
M.O.C. #2283
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caroldee2735 when I ask my agent a question like this if they can't answer it they call Allstate to get the answer.
Lynwood
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11-19-2016, 02:15 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: new caney
Posts: 98
M.O.C. #18819
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You can also order the Sailun's from simple tire online.Simple Tire probably sells more Sailun's than anyone else on the internet.
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