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01-21-2018, 06:42 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Meaa
Posts: 79
M.O.C. #21072
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Noises from LCI leveling sysyem
Hello,
My wife and I own a 2015 Keystone Montana 3610RL Fifth Wheel, which we purchased new in Dec 2015.
We are experiencing popping noises and associated vibration which we believe is originating from the front two (of 6 ) leveling jacks.
We wondered if anyone else is experiencing this, and if so, have you found resolution?
I called the dealership where we purchased our rig. We were told they were not familiar with this complaint. It was suggested that I contact Lippert (LCI) as they are the manufacturers of the self leveling system.
Any suggestions on this would be appreciated. Thanks!
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01-21-2018, 06:50 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,364
M.O.C. #4831
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This is a well known "feature" of the level up system. Lippert has identified the problem as "stiction". There is a solution available by adding a quart or two of special (15 weight) oil. Read about the problem and solution here http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=71385
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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01-21-2018, 08:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Worked for us
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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01-21-2018, 08:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,329
M.O.C. #3699
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Had exactly the same problem on our 2015, used the CAT oil and fixed it permanently.
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Bob and Nancy Kassl Fall Creek, Wisconsin
2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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01-21-2018, 08:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Paola
Posts: 5,739
M.O.C. #4961
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It fixed ours also.
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Dennis & Linda Ward
Paola, Kansas
Montana 3735MK Legacy Edition
1200 watts of Solar
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01-21-2018, 09:37 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Meaa
Posts: 79
M.O.C. #21072
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Noises
Thanks to those who responded. Hopefully we can get this corrected soon. Sure is annoying!! Thanks
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01-21-2018, 11:31 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Shady Cove
Posts: 154
M.O.C. #18031
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2015 GMC Denali 2500hd D/A
2016 Montana 3160rl Legacy
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01-22-2018, 05:44 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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Our dealership PDI'd ours with the Cat oil prior to delivery as they were well aware of the issue. Any good dealership should prep a trailer with such prior to delivery as they all know this has been an issue on every unit regardless of manufacturer who uses the level up system.
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01-22-2018, 08:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Wouldn't you think after all the years with this problem that Lippert would be filling units with a mixture to combat the problem before delivering the frames to the Mfrs??
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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01-22-2018, 06:00 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: owen sound
Posts: 491
M.O.C. #17566
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Highly doubt lippert fills the reservoir prior to frame shipment. The RV manufacturer on the other hand......
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01-23-2018, 09:19 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fowler
Posts: 414
M.O.C. #12748
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speedster100
Highly doubt lippert fills the reservoir prior to frame shipment. The RV manufacturer on the other hand......
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You are correct, the reservoir is filled at the factory. The reservoir is installed and filled at the Keystone plant.
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01-23-2018, 09:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
M.O.C. #9969
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Maybe that explains alot. When I had Level-Up installed on our Monty it was done at the TrailAir Shop before everything moved to Lippert. And the Techs doing the install had a tank and pump that they connected to each jack and pumped in fluid numerous times to purge the air, this was done before installing the jacks.
And we never had any noise with that system, only problem we had was a bad control head.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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02-07-2018, 11:32 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Meaa
Posts: 79
M.O.C. #21072
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Cat oil
Quote:
Originally Posted by RKassl
Had exactly the same problem on our 2015, used the CAT oil and fixed it permanently.
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Did you remove a quart of existing oil and then add half while all hydraulics closed and the other half when all hydraulics opened? Thanks
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02-07-2018, 12:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brandon
Posts: 3,944
M.O.C. #1034
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On both our last two units our reservoir was only about 2/3 full, so we added 1/2 the cat fluid, cycled everything then added the remainder.
Cat fluid here was the solution.
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Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
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02-07-2018, 05:07 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Meaa
Posts: 79
M.O.C. #21072
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Thanks DarMar
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