NEVER Goodyear

[bigred715]

I have currently LT235/85-16 Michelin on my 3000RK and they have worked fine for 6 1/2 yrs. Had Michelin Ribs on my 2001 2880 Montana. So they do make Michelin tires that work on RV's. You people with the big Montanas, due to weight can't use the Michelin, but a lot of us with smaller trailers can. I will be going to the Sailuns this next month due to price and being highly recommened by this forum.

[wade]

just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

[Bad Moon]

Originally Posted by wade

just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

Same here. We had one blowout with the original Rainers, and wore out 2 due to out-of-alignment, and replaced them with the Endurance. Our second previous trailer had Marathons, and they lasted forever, finally replaced them because of (very) old age. I have no particular grudge against. or love for Goodyear, but most companies will, if they can, settle lawsuits out of court, and usually with a non-disclosure agreement; it's not illegal, or even unethical; if they KNOWINGLY continued to sell dangerous tires, that is inexcusable (think Firestone tires and Ford Exploder). Tires are probably the most neglected part of the trailer, and lots of people rarely check them until they go flat, so there's that to consider.

[CaptnJohn]

Originally Posted by wade

just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

[wade]

I definitely check my tires over periodically on every trip. I choose the GY endurance because of them being a new design and American made plus if something happens to one of the endurance tires I stand a pretty good chance of being able to get one to match up with the others wherever I may be. At least up here in New England anyways. Some of them other brand tires my local tire companies never even heard of and they don't carry anything 14 ply if I did want to go that heavy of a ply

[wade]

Originally Posted by CaptnJohn

Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

I didn't want that heavy of a tire as the camper only has a weight rating of 14200. didn't want it to beat the camper to death as its already had structural issues with it (broken welds) and the camper is only 3 months old probably 5000 miles on it. I also have been told in many forums and tire dealers not to run the ST tires below the psi rating on the tire so I didn't want to have to put 110 psi in the tires. the salun tires would have to be a mail order thing up where I live so getting a replacement in case something happen like cutting a tire or something else would just be a pain in the but if I needed it right now. The endurance tire in the 85 version is rated for 3640 lbs

[Bad Moon]

Originally Posted by CaptnJohn

Only a minor upgrade. That 5er is too heavy for LR 10 tires IMO. Your wheels are rated for 110 psi. You could have saved money and bought the best available ~~ Sailun LR G. Could have run them for any psi from 80# on up to 110.

Nonsense. I have the same trailer GVWR 14,285 (but i am nowhere near that fully loaded}. I scale at 9,300# on the wheels and 2,900 on the pin. 9300 /4= 2,300 per tire. Tires are rated 3685# @80psi. I am running at 62% of the tire capacity. Even assuming unbalanced load, I am well within safe operating range of the tires. His comments on softer ride are spot-on.

[richfaa]

We used various brands of tires on our 4 much lighter TT's including Goodyears with never a problem. Montana's can be much heavier and require a tires that can safely support the weight. This 13 3402 came OEM with Goodyear G614's and that is what will stay.

[DQDick]

We currently have the OEM Sailun that came on our new rig, but when it comes time to "retire" we will most likely go back to 614's. Personally I don't think chinese tire manufacturers are any more honest with buyers than Goodyear was with motorhome owners.

[Renegade1LI]

Originally Posted by wade

just bought a 2017 montana high country 310RE. It had rainner st 235/80R16 10 ply tires with just a few thousand miles on them. Up graded to the new goodyear endurance 235/85R16 10 ply Made in the USA tires they had a little more weight rating than the original tires. seem to have a stiffer Sidewall and looks to be made well, but as we say time will tell. I got only a couple thousand miles on them in some good hot weather and some pretty rough roads.I thought about salun tires and a couple other brands but I didn't want to rugged of a tire as I thought it would pound the camper pretty hard going down the highway as my camper has a 14200 GVWR and they just don't make campers like they use to.

We replaced the crap tires after a blowout in new mexico with GY endurance, the trailer was much smoother & seemed to track better. This is a triple axle 18k alfa toy house. Just looking at these they appear very well made, nice scuff guard to proyect from a rub. Do your home work, talk to a real tire shop, you won't be disappointed

[PSFORD99]

Originally Posted by DQDick

We currently have the OEM Sailun that came on our new rig, but when it comes time to "retire" we will most likely go back to 614's. Personally I don't think chinese tire manufacturers are any more honest with buyers than Goodyear was with motorhome owners.

Yet, with the reputation of both, still going back with the G614's. ???????

I understand your thinking about most Chinese tires, but Sailuns, not sure I get it, but then its not my choice.

Although I can't complain about the one set of G614's that I did run, their reputation has never been as good as the Sailuns. The one thing I refuse to do is pay the outrageous price for the Goodyears , it ridiculous . As long as the Sailuns are around, and the price they are, I will never give the price they want for the Goodyears.

There was a day when the G614's were the only decent game in town for our heavier fifth wheels, with a less then stellar reputation , that is no longer the case now with the Sailun's. To each his own .

[Denny and Angie Miller]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Hi

100,000 miles on 2 sets of G614 and no problems still running both sets on the Montana and an equipment trailer.

When I first contacted GY about the Marathon the dealer read me a litter from GY to the RV manufacturer including Keystone stating that they were not designed for the application.

So who’s fault is it that they are still being put on RV's?

Phil P

When we had our Cougar, we had a blowout on Chinese tires, then again on Mexican tires that were 1 load range higher than required, then a blowout on marathons....FINALLY I educated myself...turns out the marathons I had were rated at 65 mph. I had been driving 70+....
I bought another set of marathons, had them BALANCED, maintained my SPEED 65 or less, WEIGHED my trailer, and used the LOAD INFLATION TABLES. That was 2013, and I have not had 1 blow out since. I believe most (not all) peoples tire brand issues are from overloaded/under inflated/over driven conditions. I know my blowouts definitely were a direct result of my own ignorance on limitations of the tire. As far as marathons go, they are a great tire IMO. They are NOT meant to be on heavy trailers like Montana. If you had a marathon blow out on a montana, point the finger at the installer, or in some cases maybe even the driver, but not the manufacturer.

[Renegade1LI]

Just picked up my mothers new Jayco 34rsbs it came with good year endurance tires, nice to see a made in the US sticker on each side.

[Phil P]

Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

[DQDick]

You will find that tire manufacturers say trailer tires should be replaced every 5-7 years regardless of use. You'll find several of us on here who can tell you not to try for the 7.

[1retired06]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

Ran TransForce HTs on our 05 and 10, Never an issue.

[richfaa]

We replaced our G6 14's on our 13 3402 because we wanted to and did not mind paying the price.

[Phil P]

Hi richfaa

There is no problem with the G614s except the cost.

These 2 tires were on the axle that we failed the spring on in 2013.

The one that failed on I26 just shed its tread and that was the one cut so bad in 2013 the other one was drug sideways for a fair ways and probably had damage that wasn’t apparent.

I have run them at least 30,000 miles after that event and about 60,000 total. These failures are not because there is anything wrong with the tire just me trying to squeeze all I can get out of them before removing and just waited too long.

Do you understand “cheap”!!! LOL

Phil P

[mlh]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Hi

I failed 2 G614s on this trip they have about 60,000 miles on them and are 7 years old. Both are on the axle that failed the passenger side spring on in 2013. I just replaced all 5 tires with the Firestone TransForce HT we will see how these hold up. They have been doing well on the TV we are on our third set without problems.

Phil P

Now let me see you had tires with 60,000 miles and 7 years on them and had 2 blowouts. Goodyear stores are even supposed to fix a flat on them with that much age on. That is Goodyear Corp policy and they made the tires.
Lynwood

[richfaa]

My G6 14's had less @ 45K on them but we got this 13 3402 in July of 2012.They looked OK and had good thread left but they were more than 5 years old. We do not run this 13 3402 as much as we ran the 06 3400 but most of our travel is on interstates at interstate speeds.We thought nearly 6 years was enough and bit the bullet for new shoes.
We also got 6 new tires for the F-350 Michelin's. Ten quality tires put a big dent in the travel budget but safety has no price tag.