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Old 03-23-2014, 03:53 AM   #1
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Dually tire rotation?

Probably could find this out on google but rather enjoy asking you folks on here so what is your answer on my question? Rims are usually different front to back on duallys so how do you rotate them? I have never had one but have plans on getting one to tow the 5ver with! Thanks!
 
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:48 AM   #2
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Not sure about the different rim issue, but when I worked at the dealership, if rotating just the tires on the vehicle and not the spare, it was always fronts cross to the inside rear, outside rear to the front, inside rear to same side outside rear. If rotating the spare in, do what you feel.
If the rims are different front and rear, I see no benefit in rotation, unless demounting and remounting tires, an expensive tire rotation.
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:57 AM   #3
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Don't know about out Brands, but Chevy rims are all the same (think all the others are the same). Only problem is if you have raised white letters, limits where you can switch tires and keep the lettering visible.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:13 AM   #4
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On my Ford you can only rotate side to side. The rear interior has a different rim the exterior. And the rear outside polished rim is different than the front rims. My wear is good so I've decided not to do any rotation
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:31 AM   #5
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We have Ford do all our scheduled maint and they do not rotate the dually tires.
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:53 AM   #6
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On my ford the book says it is not required. When we were in Rapid City a few years ago and I noticed a slight bump in the tires at slow speeds and I took it to a Ford dealer. He said the tires needed rotating. I told him what the book said and he agreed but said they needed rotating. I told him to rotate them and if it fixed the bumping I would pay if not he would pay. I paid! They were the Generals that came on the truck new. I am now on my second set of Michelins and have never had them rotated.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:39 AM   #7
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The correct procedure in rotating the tires on a dual rear wheel vehicle is;

1. Move the steering tires to the rear inside on the same side.
2. Move the rear inside tires to the rear outside on the same side.
3. Move the outside rear tires to the steering position.

The only time you should change sides of the vehicle is when there is an unusual wear pattern developing that can be counteracted by changing the direction of rotation.

This is pretty easily done if all 6 wheels are steel, or steel with removable chrome covers called simulators. With aluminum wheels, such as Ford OEM, the process will require dismounting, mounting, and balancing the tires. The aluminum wheels are polished only on the side that is visible, the side you can't see has a machined surface and isn't very pretty. The process is time consuming and expensive when they are on aluminum or after market wheels and, over the life of the tires, the cost may outweigh the benefit.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:46 AM   #8
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I've never rotated tires on my truck. My Jeep had Wranglers, the book said not to change direction of rotation for some reason. I never rotated them either
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:55 AM   #9
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Like said ... it's too expensive to rotate the tires on my Ford dually with aluminum outer wheels as it requires dismounting. 20 years ago at $3/tire to dismount and mount ... it would have been feasible, but I didn't have aluminum dually wheels then. I just run em till they wear out.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:18 AM   #10
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Don't know about out Brands, but Chevy rims are all the same (think all the others are the same). Only problem is if you have raised white letters, limits where you can switch tires and keep the lettering visible.
Mine are all the same and I rotate all seven.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:59 AM   #11
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I rotate front same side to rear outside-they have to dismount to do
this.Only get it done when front is feathering.It is a 4x4 so I run traction tires,XPS traction.Somewhere between 5000 to 10000 miles.
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Old 03-23-2014, 10:34 AM   #12
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The Dodge dealer rotate my at each service, but they just flip the tires side to side. rear internal stay internal, but on the other side.
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:24 AM   #13
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Per GM owner's manual: if you have standard wheels, use the two diagrams on the left, if you have aluminum use the two diagrams on the right:

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Per GM owner's manual: if you have standard wheels, use the two diagrams on the left, if you have aluminum use the two diagrams on the right:

Tom, I knew there was a diagram of this somewhere. The reason I always crossed the fronts to the rear is it was easy to remember and didn't have to look for a diagram each time.
I've seen many comments stating rotation is only necessary to counteract irregular tire wear. The fact is, rotation will do nothing to correct tire wear, it only spreads the same wear pattern across all tires. An alignment WILL correct irregular tire wear AND prolong the life of the tires. Too many people neglect this simple maintenance item.
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The way I understand it, the idea of rotating the tires is so they all wear the same, so you replace all 4 (or 6, or 7) tires at the same time. But, Kevin is right. In a perfect world, everyone would keep their vehicles aligned and there wouldn't be any abnormal tire wear, thus no need for rotating them.
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Old 04-01-2014, 11:59 AM   #16
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I think Chevy did away with the wheel simulator in 2012. My 2012 Chevy 3500HD has the polished aluminum wheels on the front and outside rears. The inside rears are steel so I won't be demounting and rotating....Plus I don't need my nice polished rims scratched and destroyed by the tire jockey at the dealer. I had to have flats fixed on my inside rears twice and both times they blocked the inside valve stem when the remounted the wheels. I had to explain to him how to mount the wheels so I can air the tires both times..
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I have always been told not to rotate.
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Old 04-01-2014, 04:20 PM   #18
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I swap mine side to side every 15k. Will need to replace the steer tires long before the rears are due. Just the way it goes having a dually.
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Tom, I knew there was a diagram of this somewhere. The reason I always crossed the fronts to the rear is it was easy to remember and didn't have to look for a diagram each time.
I've seen many comments stating rotation is only necessary to counteract irregular tire wear. The fact is, rotation will do nothing to correct tire wear, it only spreads the same wear pattern across all tires. An alignment WILL correct irregular tire wear AND prolong the life of the tires. Too many people neglect this simple maintenance item.
Alignment isn't the only cause of tire wear. Unless you travel loaded all the time, the front tires tend to wear faster because they have more weight on them, they get turned when not moving (or moving too slow) and they do more braking. So even with a proper alignment, tire rotation is a good idea. Unfortunately, it's not practical on a dually unless you own a tire shop.
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