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09-07-2017, 08:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2016
Location: celina
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #18604
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Front bedroom closet wall
We have a 2017 3721RL. Having problem with right side closet wall coming loose. Dealer "fixed it" and it came loose bringing it home. Anybody have a fix that I can try? Thanks gary
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09-08-2017, 10:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,677
M.O.C. #12947
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I'm not familiar with your setup, but on our rig, the thin plywood panel that is the sidewall of the sliding door closet and also has cleats on the other side that is supposed to support the shelves. Ours came apart a couple of times until I used Gorilla glue and my air stapler to fasten it permanently. I also screwed through the edges of the shelves into the cleats, and have not had anything come loose since.
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09-08-2017, 10:26 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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I would glue it so it doesn't come apart no more
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09-12-2017, 05:48 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2016
Location: celina
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #18604
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Hope we got it repaired. I bought an air stapler that shoots staples with a 1/4" crown so they won't pull through the paneling as easy and also used wood glue. I also stapled to a horizontal cross piece in addition to the edge trim. I am bring my stapler to the Rally just in case. See everyone up in Goshen.
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09-13-2017, 06:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Davison
Posts: 786
M.O.C. #12331
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On our 3402RL, this is where the front of the trailer "flexes" when placing weight on the kingpin. Have the DW watch while loading the kingpin. If it flexes the wall, the fix on ours was to trim the bottom of the panel slightly, allowing for more unimpeded movement.
Before anyone points it out, no we do not have any broken welds or excessive frame flex.
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09-13-2017, 07:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We replaced the cheap staples with screws and it has never pulled out again.
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09-13-2017, 09:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I believe bethandkevin hit the nail on the head. I would bet that ALL montanas (and many other sob) flex in that area. My 3455sa flexed quite a bit. My fix was to relieve the pressure by cutting the bottom of the panel off about 1/4 to 3/8". Then I installed a 3/4 by 3/4 strip of stained 1x on each side screwed into the floor only (not into the panel). Now the panel just moves up and down in the groove with the flexing.
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09-13-2017, 10:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 6,749
M.O.C. #7560
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Check to see when you hook up if the trim on the outside of the unit moves at all. See if the caulking around the nose of the unit and the trim piece is broken and moves. If it is and if it does, you have frame flex. This has been a common occurrence with some of the Montana's. You can go back into the Archives here on the Forum and bring up frame flex and see what is occurring. It very likely could be this since the plywood/paneling is cut to fit the inside of the closet and when there is frame flex this moves the wall just enough to break this paneling loose. You can check it yourself OR have your dealer check it. If you do have frame flex they will have to remove the front cone and add additional bracing or welds to the frame setup there.
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09-13-2017, 12:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I know my frame flexes. I can see it going down the road. I have the large level mounted on the pin box and can see the flex in the rear view mirror when I compare the top of the level to the front cap. I do have movement in the trim piece on the side under the bed slide. I was worried about it so I removed both side trims and cleaned everything up and sealed the hell out of them with silicon. I believe ALL fifthwheels have some flex in this area and that it is normal to a certain extent. Mine flexes maybe 1/2" or so. All steel flex's, it is designed to. Ever sit on a good sized bridge stuck in traffic ? You can feel the bridge moving.
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09-14-2017, 10:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,925
M.O.C. #5651
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Those of you who cut the bottom of the wall panel off a bit, how? Mine is right flush with the floor, and I don't see how I can cut it against the floor. And I would have a tough time removing the panel from the closet.
Thanks for any info.
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2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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09-14-2017, 10:50 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Fowler
Posts: 414
M.O.C. #12748
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An oscillating multi-tool works very nice.
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09-14-2017, 06:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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That wall panel is only 1/8" thick luan plywood. Easily cut with a straight edge and a normal type box cutter knife ( aka drywall knife). you will have to score it several times.
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09-15-2017, 08:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 2,925
M.O.C. #5651
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Thanks for the advice. I think I have a box cutter I can try here on the road.
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2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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