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07-09-2015, 03:16 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Telford
Posts: 26
M.O.C. #17346
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Norcold or Residential Fridge
Our camper is a 2010 model. The Norcold fridge was included in the hi temp sensor recall. The recall sensor box is installed on our unit. Long story short... We were in a sideways rainstorm a couple of weeks ago and the recall box failed...or worked, however you want to look at it. It shut down the fridge and threw the LI oP (line open) code. My thinking is that water got to the little computer board looking thing on the recall box through the vent fins on the outside of the reefer causing it to fail. We really like the fridge and it has worked fine until this one incident. I took it to the dealer and they said the recall box had failed. It (the recall box) was fixed/replaced on Norcolds dime. We weren't charged anything.
Sooo, I've been watching reefer fires on RV units on youtube and gotten paranoid.
My question is... Have any of you replaced your RV reefer with a residential unit?
Or do I just need to stay away from youtube.
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07-09-2015, 03:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,707
M.O.C. #7992
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YouTube can be dangerous that way. Just remember the few incidents you see on YouTube are out of the millions of units on the road. Jim
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2006 3000RK
2009 Ram 2500
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07-09-2015, 04:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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I helped a neighbor do it. Not hard. Have to size the residential to fit, level, put a block on the propane line, level, and do a little trim work. Hardest part was getting the fridge thru the entry door. Did not worry about an inverter, as he is set up as a seasonal. Primary reason for him was the rv unit quit and the residential refrigerator was a significantly cheaper solution.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-09-2015, 05:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lakeside
Posts: 606
M.O.C. #7139
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I replaced our Dometic with a Sears, Kenmore has 10.4 cubic feet. DW loves the bigger size much more room. We haven't boondocked but once in eight years. It was only a third of the cost. Brother in law and I installed on had to trim the sides and top of the opening. Saw dust wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. That was last February and it has preformed very well.
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07-09-2015, 05:05 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Since we occasionally boondock we don't want a residential as they draw too many amps. Refrigerator fires are rare, but worth worrying about so we installed an automatic fire extinguisher in the back of the fridge. Installed something similar to this I got from Mac the fire guy: http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Fight-Pro...e+extinguisher
Got a small discount on my rig insurance for installing it.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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07-10-2015, 01:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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We have had trailers since 1970, used heavily throughout the years, to include six years of fulltiming. Never had a fire, never ran across anybody who had a fire. Only overheating issue I ever heard about was the NORCOLD recall.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-10-2015, 02:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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When my Norcold dies I'm replacing with residential. When we travel it is for 6 hours/day max. Shouldn't need batteries.
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2018.5 Montana 3791RD
Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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07-10-2015, 05:18 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New Port Richey
Posts: 438
M.O.C. #14092
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Even though right now I will never boondock on purpose I still don't think I would replace mine with a residential model if it fails. For my situation I like having the RV frig. I don't have a generator in my 5th nor do I carry one with me. I live in FL and I am only a local(50-250 mile radius) camper for now. I been at a couple of camp grounds where the power has gone out from as little as 15 min's and as longs as 24hrs. Here in Fl the RV inside temps climb quickly when the a/c shuts off . I like the propane as an automatic back up. I don't have to worry that my food will spoil if I am away from the RV for the day sight seeing and the power drops off.
I cannot keep my RV at my house so I keep it in a storage unit plugged into A/C power so I do not have to go thru the hassle of emptying and refill my frig every time I go camping. It would takes at least 24 hrs for the frig to cool down if I turned it off.I know the propane will kick if the power goes out at the storage unit. This set up works great for my situation right now.....
Don't worry about YouTube video's on RV frig fires. Like some already said they are few and far between. If you really want something to worry about you should watch YouTube video's on RV accident's/Crashes . You would sell your RV tomorrow. Don't worry, enjoy your RV . If we all worried about what could happen to us ever time we leave our homes most of us never would . But then again they say most accidents happen IN the home...Great now what am I going to do ....Hmmmmmm
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2012 Silverado 3500HD|4x4|Crew Cab|long bed|Dually
2012 Montana 3750FL
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07-10-2015, 05:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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Stay away from U-Tube.
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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07-10-2015, 08:58 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Alvarado
Posts: 57
M.O.C. #14704
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Personaly I feel that these fire breathing absorption fridges should be put out to pasture as the inverter technology is much better now and residential fridges are more efficiant than they use to be.
I have seen a rv fridge fire so I vote for residential.
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07-10-2015, 11:44 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Livingston
Posts: 131
M.O.C. #11717
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When our OEM fridge died 3 yrs ago, we installed a resi fridge ($1600 for direct replacement vs $300 for resi). Money saved was used to help pay for solar panels. Best thing we ever did. We full time and boondock 65% of the time, Works great. No regrets.
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07-10-2015, 12:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eugene
Posts: 1,053
M.O.C. #5091
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Would Norcold issue the recall to you, or the dealer you bought it from? Haven't had any problem with either 2001 or this 2010 Montana refrigerators.
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07-10-2015, 02:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brandon
Posts: 3,944
M.O.C. #1034
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Our next unit will definitely have a residential.
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Darwin & Maureen DeBackere
Minnedosa, Manitoba, Canada
2011/3500/Silverado/4x4/DRW/Duramax
2017/3721RL/Legacy Pkg./Pressure-Pro
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07-11-2015, 12:11 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Macomb
Posts: 293
M.O.C. #5709
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One more issue that has never been mentioned before, if the temperature in the RV goes below fifty degrees, the residential refrigerators will not work. So, if you live in a climate that gets cold and you want to turn the refrigerator on before you go they don't work below fifty degrees.
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07-11-2015, 06:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,144
M.O.C. #1920
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I would, IMHO, say it depends upon how you use your unit and where you camp. We are on our third Montana and have not had a problem so far.
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Ron and Terrie Ames - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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07-14-2015, 02:54 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Elkhart Lake
Posts: 141
M.O.C. #12256
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Most residential refrigerators (with the exception of newer high end refrigerators) are controlled by a cold control/thermostat in the fresh food section. Residential refrigerators are designed to operate at or around normal room temps. The fresh food section is cooled by cold air from the freezer on almost all refrigerators, again with a few exceptions. What happens is when the ambient temperature gets below about 50 degrees or so, the refrigerator will not run long enough to cool the freezer properly. This is because the refrigerator doesn’t have to run very long to cool the fresh food section to the "set" temperature if the ambient temperature is low. So, if the temperature in the fresh food section is at the "set" temperature (the cold control is satisfied) the entire refrigerator cuts off. When the ambient temperature gets down in the 30s, the refrigerator will not run at all. Realistically, when you're living in your coach, how often are you going to have the inside of your coach at 50 degrees or below? I think it's pretty much of a non-issue.
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07-14-2015, 03:14 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Livingston
Posts: 131
M.O.C. #11717
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In the three plus years we've had our resi, that has never been an issue. We live in our 2006 3650RK full time and follow the sun, which I'm sure helps. We avoid cold environments.
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