I was wrong!!!!!!

[scductman]

Just got in tonight. back from kissemmee had a great time. we stoped in yulee fla for fuel and I felt my rig wobbling. I suspected a loose wheel I started looking and found two of the missions that I had so much confidence in with 8000 miles on them had seperated. So being 350miles from home I started looking for tires. Called tirekingdom could only get a set of LT/235/85R16 load range E Mesa by cooper made in usa. These tires are rated for 3042lb @ 80 psi. got what I think was a good price installed and come home. Now for Glenn or Lonnie can I leave these on they look good and I dont want to replace them. I am going to call tireco monday to see if I can get any help with $$ or tires but I dont want china tires on my rig again. I just want your opp. thanks guys bobby

[LonnieB]

Bobby, I don't know anything about Mesa tires, but most Cooper tires have a pretty good reputation. Just make sure your rig doesn't weigh any more than the tires are rated for, and you should be just fine.

[FLSTS03]

Good morning Bobby, I have been pondering TPM systems for our 3400Rl. I wonder it tire seperation would be detected by Pressure Pro or a simular system. Not sure what hapens to tire pressure as seperation begins. Since we've only had 1 trip so far(newbies) not so sure I would have noticed a problem as you did.You can't beat good ole experiance..Steve

[richfaa]

We put Coopers on our 3400 about 3,000 miles ago.We have used Cooper tires as replacement tires on all our vehicles and Campers for many years with excellent results. The 3042lb rating is within the 6K axle rating. Always be careful to not overload..in all areas.

Cooper tires is am American owned company that manufacturers tires in several USA cities under the " Cooper" Brand. Cooper also makes tires under the Avon, Mastercraft,Dean and Kenda brand names in Europe and Asia. Avon Tire is highly respected in the Motor sports field.

[Jolu]

Rich, did you use the same tire as Bobby, the Mesa LT/235/85R16? A couple of weeks ago I checked with our Cooper outlet and after they called their suppliers, they told me they could only get trailer tires that were from China. They had names that were not Cooper. From what I read I'm not sure that we have very many choices anymore about where our trailer tires come from . We need to try and choose a tire that will hold up.

I have used Cooper tires on a motorhome I owned and I really liked them. They wore well and gave a very good ride. JB

[richfaa]

Here is the tire still made by Cooper http://www.coopertire.com/html/produ...rm_2_radial_lt

Note these ar LT tires not Trailer tires (ST) Your dealer was correct about trailer tires and China

[mail2us]

Indeed Cooper has great tires from a user point of view. We see Cooper outlets all over the countryside here in NC and locals use them on all their vehicles, especially when I work with some of these folks on building jobs, etc. Their loyalty is to Cooper.

Slightly off thread I did view recently the 10th edition Montana and noted the Goodyear tires on the 3500 were made in China, ...even Goodyear is China-driven.

[scductman]

Steve I watch my trailer tires in the mirror all the time. when we left home I cked the air pressure and ajusted to 80psi. On the way home they looked fine even getting off of the interstate everything looked great but at low speed you could feel the trailer wiggling bad but if I had not needed fuel and stayed on the road I am sure within 50miles they would have torn up my sides and one tire was bad on each side of the monty. They were still at 80psi when taken off thats why I dont use tpms. They would be good for a slow leak but not a blowout or cap coming off jmho. I keep a good tire gage. bobby

[tbhd2]

Our 04 Montana came with "Dominators" on it which is a Cooper tire also. I had to replace them because of bent axles from Alko. They are a LT tire 235-85-16 load range E. We had no problems with the first set other than they were worn on the inside edge. So far the new ones are doing well also. (Made in USA).

[exav8tr]

My opinion differs from Bobby as to the TPMS. I HAD a blowout on the Alaska Highway and the system alerted me immediately to the blowout. I did not feel the loss, but would have if the tire had come off the rim as happens so many times. I pulled to the side of the road immediately and was probably able to save the side of my Monty with absolutely no damage. He is correct in saying they would do nothing to alert you to tread seperation unless you lost pressure. This is my experience with the Pressure Pro system and I would not leave home without them......

[scductman]

Phil you are right about that in the tire blowing out. I had not thought of that they would be great in that situation. guess I will have to rethink!!!. bobby

[richfaa]

Nothing can predict a "sudden and catastrophic Failure' (blowout) of a tire however many tire failures are caused by a slow loss of pressure causing in tire seperation from the rim and at that point looks and sounds like a blowout. The TPM does warn against that and in our case has.

[illapah]

Here is what I found on the Cooper Website. What is the probable right tire for our Montana's?

Tire Selector

Tire Size: 235/85R16

Name Size / Service Descr. UTQG Load Range Sidewall Approved Rim Width Meas. Rim Width Section Width Overall Diam. Tread Width Max Load Tread Depth
Discoverer ATR LT235/85R16
120/116 R E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.36 31.78 6.7 3042 16.5
Discoverer ATR LT235/85R16
120/116 R E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.36 31.78 6.7 3042 16.5
Discoverer ATR LT235/85R16
120/116 R E OWL 6 - 7 6.5 9.36 31.78 6.7 3042 16.5
Discoverer ATR LT235/85R16
120/116 R E OWL 6 - 7 6.5 9.36 31.78 6.7 3042 16.5
Discoverer H/T LT235/85R16
120/116 Q E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.31 31.65 6.77 3042 16
Discoverer H/T LT235/85R16
120/116 Q E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.31 31.65 6.77 3042 16
Discoverer M+S LT235/85R16
120/116 Q E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.31 31.78 6.94 3042 17
Discoverer M+S LT235/85R16
120/116 Q E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.31 31.78 6.94 3042 17
Discoverer Radial AST LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.3 31.5 6.11 3042 14
Discoverer Radial LT LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.21 31.75 6.36 3042 17
Discoverer S/T LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.29 31.9 7 3042 18
Discoverer S/T LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.29 31.9 7 3042 18
Discoverer S/T-C LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.29 31.9 7 3042 18
Discoverer STT LT235/85R16
120/116 Q E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.7 31.8 7.3 3042 18
SRM II Radial LT LT235/85R16
120/116 N E BLK 6 - 7 6.5 9.21 31.7 6.69 3042 14

[richfaa]

This is the one we used.....http://www.coopertire.com/html/products/
tires_lighttruck.aspx?page=srm_2_radial_lt

[LonnieB]

illapah, you can scratch everything on your list except the SRM II, and the HT. The rest are too agressive. They also have a Custom Trailer, and a Custom Trailer Plus as Rich posted.

[illapah]

Thanks Lonnie. I am getting worried about the Missions on my 5th. I hope for another summer on them though. I only go about 1K miles one way to Montana and then back home. Not a fast driver (60 MPH on hiway is good for us). May look at the Michelins I posted about on another thread at Costco. I would stop in to buy from you if in the area.

[scductman]

Illapah mine are ST235/80/R16 the ones I got on the road were LT235/85/R16. Lonnie I am not sure about these they are harder to pull I can really tell after changing them on the rest of the trip home what do you think. I am going to see what tireco will do tomorrow. bobby

[LonnieB]

Bobby, the trailer shouldn't be any harder to pull than it was before. I replace the 235/80R16s with 235/85R16s all the time, even on my own, and have never encountered this problem. There IS more rubber on the LT tread than the ST tread, and the sidewalls are thicker on the LTs, so they do weigh a little more, but the rolling resistance shouldn't be enough to notice. If you haven't already done so, check your air pressure and make sure it isn't too low.