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08-26-2006, 04:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Estero
Posts: 136
M.O.C. #3207
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Air compressor
Has anyone had experience with an air compressor from Vital Air model 460c?
http://www.viaircorp.com/460c.html
I have a Ford F250 pulling a 2980 RL and when I go in for routine TV maintenance I usually have the tires checked for tire pressure. Seems like every dealer has a different understanding of proper towing tire pressure. The last dealer put 65 psi in the front tire and 80 psi in the rear tire of the tv. Said they put the max based on the tire info. Ford says 60 front 75 rear.
What do you do for cold tire pressure?
Doug & LInda,Estero, FL
2005 2980RL
2005 F-250 SD 4x2 6.0L V8 Diesel 5 SPD Auto
Reis 16k
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08-26-2006, 05:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Yes, I have the 450C, great compressor. I have it mounted on my truck.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
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08-26-2006, 06:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
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I run 65 all around when not towing. When towing, 65 in the fronts, 80 in the rears. The tires have worn well with almost 64k on them and maybe 10k to 15k left, so I must not be too far off.
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Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
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08-31-2006, 09:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Thornton
Posts: 178
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I have the Sears Craftsman 3 gal. Air Compressor, 1 hp, Horizontal Tank
Sears item #00915310000 Mfr. model #15310. Reg Price $125, sale Price $89.
Fits easily in the front tool compartment. Great for tires, impact wrench, my air powered grease gun, and of course bike tires and beach rafts.. TC
06 F350 4wd PSD Crew
06 Mountianeer 34PHT
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09-06-2006, 02:29 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Palm Bay
Posts: 423
M.O.C. #4308
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A question for Ozz, I have a Porter Cable air compressor, I use it for my nail gun and to put air in the tires. I want to get one of those converters from CW that you can hook to your battery with clips and it will allow you to plug in a 110 air compressor. What size converter would be best?
Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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09-06-2006, 02:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ft. Smith
Posts: 981
M.O.C. #116
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What's the amp rating of the compressor?
Skip
Skip and Mary
Black '04.5 Dodge 3500, CTD, 2x4, 48RE, LB, DRW, 3.73, LineX, AFE air filter, Donaldson muffler
'05 3500RL, TrailAir Pinbox
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09-06-2006, 03:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Ahhh, the old inverter operating a motor, dilemma. I'm afraid the chances are not good that you will want to spend the money for an inverter and battery system to do the job, you could buy a generator cheaper. It probably takes around 15 amps, running, and 2 or 3 (or more) times that to get started for a split second. It would draw so many amps, you would have to hard wire it, the jumper ends wouldn't be a good enough connection.
The starting amps are so high, that it takes a large inverter to overcome it, much like an air conditioner.
I have a 3,000 watt, with a surge much higher, it might do the job, but then you have to have the dual 6 Volt Golf Cart batteries, battery disconnect switch, 250 amp fuse, very heavy battery cables, then you would want a transfer switch to utilize the system for your RV, and on and on........It's quite possible someone has done it, but it won't be easy, or cheap.
Get a 5# bottle of CO2 gas, a regulator, and you have your air supply. $14.00 for a refill.
I have used it with no regulator, but wouldn't recommend it.....
Good luck,
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
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09-07-2006, 01:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Conover
Posts: 995
M.O.C. #1832
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OK I will put my two cents worth in on this. Old GI I have the same pancake Porta Cable compressor and do run it off inverter. I installed a 2500 watt inverter under back seat of my truck. Took out the metal folding platform pan and installed it under the passenger side back seat. Got it from www.inverters.com for $179.00, has peak of 3,800 watts sustained of 2500 watts. Hard wired 2/0 cables under the truck to engine compartment have two in series 150 AMP circuit breakers just before the battery. these are the water proof type from Advance Auto Bussman brand 30.00 bucks each. Since I have a PSD I have two batteries already in my truck. I can and have run my air compressor off it and drained it and ran it again and again and it works fine. Know you don't want to keep it up for extremely long times as the batteries in your truck are not designed for it. But for short periods they will hold fine, just make sure your truck is running when trying to run the Air Compressor off it. The main reason I did it this way is for pumping up truck and Monty tires while on the side of the road, just in case a problem. If I had seen what OZZ did prior with the on board compressor I more than likely would have done that and rigged up a fitting on outside of the truck for air like he did, but I had already ordered the inverter and it works fine. Know hold onto your wallet when you get that 2/0 welding cable it's very expensive. You will need about 15 foot of it to mount under the back seat and run it through the floorboard where the rubber plugs are. You will only need pos side that long the neg side you can mount to the back seat mounts and get good ground there.
Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
http://www.picturetrail.com/broome101
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09-07-2006, 03:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Broome101, That, my friend is a nice job. I'm glad you posted the warning about the batteries, most, (or some) people do not know the difference in practical use, about starting batteries and deep cell batteries. The starting batteries having lighter construction, the deep cell heaver, and made for discharging very low, then recharging multiple times without collapsing the cell construction.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
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09-07-2006, 05:13 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Palm Bay
Posts: 423
M.O.C. #4308
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Thanks a lot guys, I think I'll look at the Vital Air web site. Ozz you have such neat stuff on your rig.........Pete
Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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09-07-2006, 05:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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M.O.C. #5980
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Hey, Pete,
I think it's Harbor Freight has a pretty nice looking Knock-off of the big Viair 12 volt compressor for under a hunnert bucks. You might look into that.
Also, don't rule out that 5# bottle, (or larger) of CO2 with a regulator and hose. Many people have and love them.
(I, of course, am Mr. redundancy, have Two of the bottles I will be carrying for back up air.)
I had a potty tank blockage when I did not know better, couldn't get it to drain for nuthin, I was laying on the ground on South Padre, banging on the drain pipe and tank with a rubber mallet, neighbors were gathering around....
I took the CO2 tank hose, packed some rags around the potty basin and one small charge, and it all discharged. The neighbors clapped, and I went and had a beer.
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish, LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge, LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets, On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat, Hadley Air Horns, Truck inverter with 110 volts: laptop, Color Backup camera, Firestone air bags,Husky air ride roller hitch, Awning lock
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