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02-09-2007, 05:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Morgan City
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awnings
Well, my awning got tore up here in south Louisiana in the last storm. We have the 3650rk and I am considering the electric awning. Anyone have any input? (silly question)
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02-09-2007, 05:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ephrata
Posts: 757
M.O.C. #2801
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The next time you see a Big Sky check it out as they have the electrict operated awning. Have not seen it yet but you might get a price from you dealer for one. Would be interested to see the price.
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02-09-2007, 06:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Caldwell
Posts: 825
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Dick and Jackie,
off topic but,
Just wanted to tell you what a greeat little town you have there in Ephrata. Whe I was a chapter director for Gold Wing Road Riders we had a rally there. Our chapter "G" The pink panthers had a banner hung over the roadway that temporarily changed the name of the town to "G"phrata. The town thought it was hilarious. What a great bunch of people. great hospitality.
Back on topic, I too am interested in the electric awning, and have a queastion as to the side wall strength, is it backed to take the extra strain?
Rick
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02-09-2007, 07:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
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Garin1
Couple of options. A&E and Carefree. Big Sky chose the Carefree, probably for the same reason we did.
The full version A&E Weatherpro is around $1,800 for my 16'. It is fully automatic (wind sensor, etc.). A&E makes a stripped down version for Camping World called a Power Pro 9100. It's the same basic awning only it just has electric in/out with a switch and only comes in vinyl. They are on sale for $850 + install for my 16'. The A&E power awnings require the full replacement, as they put the motor in the roller tube. My biggest concern with them is the "knee action" advertised to absorb wind gusts. The shock is too lightweight and the awning will be continously slapping up and down in any breeze (physically played with one at Camping World).
The full version Carefree Eclipse is also areound $1,800 for my 16" fully loaded, or $1,300 stripped. They will not work on my 3400, as the arm is too long for my front overhang. What Keystone chose to use is the Carefree Travl'r version, which is around $1,200 and is a lighter weight version to the Eclipse, but fits the front overhang. The arm system on the Carefree is much sturdier and limits movement in the wind. Not that it would work in your case (ripped awning), but carefree power arms are compatible with A&E awnings. We elected to buy the Travl'r power arms and use them with our existing awning. The Carefree motors are in the arms, so replacement involves removing the old arms, removing the spring in the roller, and installing the new power arms. Total cost to us will be $900 including installation. Ours will look just like what is pictured on the Big Sky 340RLQ, only our awning fabric will be the original A&E. Hopefully it will be installed in the next two weeks.
Happy shopping!
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02-09-2007, 01:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
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Garin, we don't have the electric awning. Those who do that I've talked with commented they're pretty flimsy and by the time it realizes there is a wind and starts to close it's too late. Slowly increasing winds, yes. Gusts, no. That's keeping us from going to the electrically operated awning. If they solve that problem I'll reconsider.
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02-09-2007, 01:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Statham
Posts: 1,410
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I saw an electric awning on the Class A of a campground host on Lake Lanier last summer and talked to him about how he liked it one day. Like Steve said, he commented that it was extremely flimsy and said that if something ever happened to it, he would switch back to a manual. Looking at one of them at the local Montana dealer last summer--not on a Monty, mind you--I was inclined to agree with his assessment.
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02-09-2007, 03:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
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M.O.C. #6109
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Guess I'll find out for myself.
Sure beats getting a ladder out to manually setup or take down the one I have (release knob about 3' above my reach). I'd never get the factory one down in the wind on time.
Again - no mention of the Brand of those disliked. I would agree the A&E system is too flimsy.
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02-10-2007, 09:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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Brad, I have a small step stool in the basement for that purpose. But I still have to use the ladder to put the deflappers on. I like the concept of the electric. I just don't like the implementation. Someday hopefully they'll solve the problems. I hope you never have a problem with yours.
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02-10-2007, 10:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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We were in Tucson, a sudden wind came up and a class A's automatic awning flipped up over the rig,
wind too fast for sensor-Ugh.
I wouldn't have one on mine. I would be a scaredy cat and worry all the time.
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02-10-2007, 10:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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My dealer doesn't recommend them for the very reasons stated before. Many times the wind hits you too fast and they don't retract quickly enough.
Orv
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02-10-2007, 11:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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I wonder if there is a way to temporarily disable the automatic retraction so you could strap down the awning. Then you could use it in automatic mode when you only want it to be down for short periods. Just a thought.
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02-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
M.O.C. #6109
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Gentlemen - We are really confusing the issue here by not comparing apples to apples -
The Big Sky Carefree Travl'r and the A&E Power Pro 9100 are NOT automatic awnings, they are simply ELECTRIC. There are no sensors. They don't move until you push the button. You can tie them down if you want, you can even hang party lights on them. Grant it, you can't tie them down as tight as the long arm type standard awnings considering the pivot point, but our standard awning has the short front arm anyway so the pivot point is the same.
The whole idea behind the electric is you extend it when you want to use it, and put it away when your done, or if you want to leave. It takes 30 seconds - 40 maybe if its strapped down - and your done. No getting a ladder to reach the upper arm releases, and no getting your wife slammed in between the arm and the trailer when a gust blows that awning fabric up like a sail when you release the horizontal supports. Seems to make sense to me.
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02-10-2007, 03:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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Thanks for the clarification, Brad. That pretty much eliminates my concerns. Now, if you'd like to have one installed on our Montana we'd be glad to report back how well it works.
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