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01-20-2020, 05:36 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Hereford,AZ
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #23139
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Why did you replace the sailun tires?
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2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW, Aisin, 4:10, B&W 3600 Companion
2019 3121RL Montana 20th Anniversary Edition
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01-20-2020, 05:59 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azwiz
Why did you replace the sailun tires?
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They probably had about 30,000 miles on them and we went to the 17.5" tires so we figured we'd get it all done at once. The reason we went with the Goodyear instead of another set of Sailuns is because of the warranty.
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01-20-2020, 09:20 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Hereford,AZ
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #23139
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with Goodyears you'll need the warranty, they don't have a good reputation, the Sailuns are all steel, sidewalls as well as tread where the Goodyears are only steel belted treads.
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2018 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn DRW, Aisin, 4:10, B&W 3600 Companion
2019 3121RL Montana 20th Anniversary Edition
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01-20-2020, 09:45 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azwiz
with Goodyears you'll need the warranty, they don't have a good reputation, the Sailuns are all steel, sidewalls as well as tread where the Goodyears are only steel belted treads.
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Never had a problem with any of our Sailuns our our Goodyears to date.
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01-20-2020, 09:54 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Vacaville
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #22227
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IS, Disk Brakes, and Timken Bearings: Great Upgrade
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Originally Posted by prndl
What is the cost of the IS installed?
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We had the IS, Disk Brake, and Timken Bearing upgrade done a couple of weeks after the 2019 Fall Rally. Price was $6,976 for our 2017 305RL High Country. We had the 7k IS system installed. We've driven about 5,000 miles since then (Indiana to Texas to California and then a couple of trips inside CA). A major improvement in stability and shock absorption. I'd do it again, no question.
The MORRyde Sales Rep (Ryan), the technician that did the work, and Brian (Service Manager) were great to work with.
We've already made a reservation to have them service the system while we're in the area at the 2020 Fall Rally.
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Steve & Terri
2017 305RL Montana High Country
2017 F-250 CCSB Diesel Lariat FX4
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01-20-2020, 09:54 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Uniontown
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #18457
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Do you know what the height difference is between the original setup with spring suspension and your new IS?
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Noel & Pat
2011 3750FL, 5 x Goodyear G614s, front bike rack
2015 F350, KR, CCLB, DRW, B&W Puck Hitch
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01-20-2020, 09:59 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ohiomoen
Do you know what the height difference is between the original setup with spring suspension and your new IS?
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They measure everything before starting work and then use those measurements to add the new suspension - so we are exactly the same height before and after. This was one of my questions and concerns, but they measured after the work and it was exactly the same.
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01-20-2020, 10:01 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveandTerri
We had the IS, Disk Brake, and Timken Bearing upgrade done a couple of weeks after the 2019 Fall Rally. Price was $6,976 for our 2017 305RL High Country. We had the 7k IS system installed. We've driven about 5,000 miles since then (Indiana to Texas to California and then a couple of trips inside CA). A major improvement in stability and shock absorption. I'd do it again, no question.
The MORRyde Sales Rep (Ryan), the technician that did the work, and Brian (Service Manager) were great to work with.
We've already made a reservation to have them service the system while we're in the area at the 2020 Fall Rally.
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I agree - I wish I had pulled the trigger on earlier and would definitely do it again. Gary was our rep, Sergio did the work and yes, Brian was the manager. Great folks to work with - very pleasant and knowledgeable!
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01-20-2020, 10:06 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Vacaville
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #22227
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Height Increase due to IS
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Originally Posted by ohiomoen
Do you know what the height difference is between the original setup with spring suspension and your new IS?
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The height increased about 3 inches at the suspension/wheel location. Also, the rig is now 13'-3" at the highest point (the top of the front AC Unit).
MORRyde will carefully measure the height of your 5er before and after the modifications.
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2017 305RL Montana High Country
2017 F-250 CCSB Diesel Lariat FX4
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01-20-2020, 10:15 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Vacaville
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #22227
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Height increase
We pull our 305RL with an F250 SRW truck which puts the nose of the 5er up a bit high. Our 5er had been riding a bit 'nose-high' prior to the upgrade. MORRyde installs spacers between the 5er's frame and the IS System to level the 5er as much as possible. I believe they installed the tallest spacers on our rig and it now rides level. A side benefit for us: there's now more clearance under the rear end of the 5er... about 4-5 inches higher than before? More clearance for the rear jacks too.
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2017 305RL Montana High Country
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01-20-2020, 10:31 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveandTerri
The height increased about 3 inches at the suspension/wheel location. Also, the rig is now 13'-3" at the highest point (the top of the front AC Unit).
MORRyde will carefully measure the height of your 5er before and after the modifications.
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Wow! Ours didn't change at all - it was exactly the same before and after.
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01-20-2020, 10:32 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveandTerri
We pull our 305RL with an F250 SRW truck which puts the nose of the 5er up a bit high. Our 5er had been riding a bit 'nose-high' prior to the upgrade. MORRyde installs spacers between the 5er's frame and the IS System to level the 5er as much as possible. I believe they installed the tallest spacers on our rig and it now rides level. A side benefit for us: there's now more clearance under the rear end of the 5er... about 4-5 inches higher than before? More clearance for the rear jacks too.
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Didn't see this until after I replied LOL, but it makes sense. We were pretty much level to begin with on ours.
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01-20-2020, 05:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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When Mor-Ryde installs spacers it is for leveling purposes only. Mine had 3'' spacers. This only raised the rear of the rv. I was 13'5'' before and 13' 5'' after measuring the top of front a/c which is the highest point on anyone's rig. When raising the rear they also adjust the jacks accordingly, if not then your jacks would in some cases just barely touch the ground and make for a very unstable rig. Installing IS you feel like you are getting a custom job from Mor-Ryde. Mor-Ryde is 1st class all the way but anyone who has had them work on there rv knows that already.
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01-20-2020, 06:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,423
M.O.C. #21044
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Nat_Park - thanks for all the good information on the Morryde upgrade. It’s on our list for someday...just gotta keep watering the money tree.
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2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
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01-20-2020, 06:28 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Texan
When Mor-Ryde installs spacers it is for leveling purposes only. Mine had 3'' spacers. This only raised the rear of the rv. I was 13'5'' before and 13' 5'' after measuring the top of front a/c which is the highest point on anyone's rig. When raising the rear they also adjust the jacks accordingly, if not then your jacks would in some cases just barely touch the ground and make for a very unstable rig. Installing IS you feel like you are getting a custom job from Mor-Ryde. Mor-Ryde is 1st class all the way but anyone who has had them work on there rv knows that already.
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Makes sense - like I said, I'm not a mechanically oriented person but I can small things. I'm a computer guy for 30 years Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it!
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01-20-2020, 06:29 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikendebbie
Nat_Park - thanks for all the good information on the Morryde upgrade. It’s on our list for someday...just gotta keep watering the money tree.
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You're quote welcome - happy to share my experience and it was definitely a great one!
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01-21-2020, 10:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: home base IL, OTR anywhere
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #19382
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We're having the IS done in April. Can't decide on the 7k or 8k. Our new 3813MS has 16800 GVWR. Brian told us the 8k will be stiffer but still better than factory the 7k will be softer given our GVWR if we load out to max (which we will be near by my estimate). Other question that we are trying to figure out is the legacy pkg comes with dexter disc brakes. Brian says they'll work with the 7k IS but not the 8k IS. we'll opt for the timken bearings too.
ON the wheels &tires that came with the monty, anybody know what the tire pressure specs are... our rig is stored indoors for the winter and currently inaccessible so that info would be helpful to decide on an upgrade there as well.
We have a 2017 Ram with tow pkg including rear air suspension, B&W companion and the factory Lippert Rotaflex pinbox which all rode smoothly from the dealer to our house. Not sure about a pinbox upgrade at this time.
Any recommendations?
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2017 RAM 3500 Laramie CCLB Dually CTD Aisin, OEM auto level rear air-ride, B&W hitch
2020 3813MS Legacy Cobalt FBP, MORryde 8K IS & pinbox, PI EMS,DIY mods by in-house "craftsman", RV security system Mk1 Beagle Alerter
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01-21-2020, 11:14 AM
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#38
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggarView
We're having the IS done in April. Can't decide on the 7k or 8k. Our new 3813MS has 16800 GVWR. Brian told us the 8k will be stiffer but still better than factory the 7k will be softer given our GVWR if we load out to max (which we will be near by my estimate). Other question that we are trying to figure out is the legacy pkg comes with dexter disc brakes. Brian says they'll work with the 7k IS but not the 8k IS. we'll opt for the timken bearings too.
ON the wheels &tires that came with the monty, anybody know what the tire pressure specs are... our rig is stored indoors for the winter and currently inaccessible so that info would be helpful to decide on an upgrade there as well.
We have a 2017 Ram with tow pkg including rear air suspension, B&W companion and the factory Lippert Rotaflex pinbox which all rode smoothly from the dealer to our house. Not sure about a pinbox upgrade at this time.
Any recommendations?
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I would go with what Brian recommends, that's what we did. Our Montana is 17600 and he said the same, we'd get a better ride with the 7k than the 8k so that's what we did.
If you got the Sailuns from the factory ours were 110psi cold. The 17.5" Goodyear's we got through MORRyde are 125psi cold and Sergio told us to run them at 115-120 psi.
Hope this helps!
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01-21-2020, 12:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: home base IL, OTR anywhere
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #19382
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just to be sure, I know the Sailuns have a cold pressure rating of 110 PSI, but I have heard that the wheels that Keystone puts on are not rated that high so they aren't inflated to the full 110lbs... again this is what I have heard... anybody confirm that?
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2017 RAM 3500 Laramie CCLB Dually CTD Aisin, OEM auto level rear air-ride, B&W hitch
2020 3813MS Legacy Cobalt FBP, MORryde 8K IS & pinbox, PI EMS,DIY mods by in-house "craftsman", RV security system Mk1 Beagle Alerter
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01-21-2020, 12:19 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 70
M.O.C. #21914
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggarView
just to be sure, I know the Sailuns have a cold pressure rating of 110 PSI, but I have heard that the wheels that Keystone puts on are not rated that high so they aren't inflated to the full 110lbs... again this is what I have heard... anybody confirm that?
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I can't confirm other than I was running mine at 105-110 for the past year with no issues.
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