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07-08-2016, 12:19 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Troutdale
Posts: 26
M.O.C. #17731
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Hallway grab handle
Wife has sustained a permanent knee injury making it difficult to safely navigate the two steps going to the front of the coach on our 3610RL. I need to add a grab handle but can't locate one any where that's meant for interior use. I also spoke with Keystone on help on where the aluminum studs are located in that section of the trailer but that was a no go and my detector is of no help as well. If anyone has suggestions I'd appreciate it.
Thanks!
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07-08-2016, 12:44 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
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Older Montana's had an inside (suicide stair) and then three outside stairs. Those rigs, like ours, had an inside grab handle at the exit door. I just ordered another and installed it on the inside stairs. Older Alpines also had an inside curving handle going up to the bedroom. I'd discuss it with a Montana Dealer, you should be able to order replacements even though you don't own that particular rig. I have an older model of this type of detector and it will find the studs not sure about this one, but it should: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AHYDXGQ...arousels&psc=1
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07-08-2016, 12:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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I made with the help of a friend with a wood shop a wood rail with brass brackets and attached to the metal studs on our 2955Rl works like a champ!
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07-08-2016, 01:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Our 2015 came standard with a nice metal handrail, covering entire stair run. you might check with your dealer.
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07-09-2016, 01:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ontario
Posts: 722
M.O.C. #1328
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If your talking about the entrance to the bedroom on the 3610 there are no metal studs in the hall/steps area only wooden and probably 2x2
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07-09-2016, 06:19 AM
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Established Member
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My thanks to all!
Got some great leads here which I'm sure will take me where I need to go. Safe travels.
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07-10-2016, 02:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Northport
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We went to the 2013 national rally and plant tour. I mentioned these things need a grab rail for safety. I was given a blueprint of the exterior wall of my unit. Don't look for a stud every 16" because they are not on 16" centers. Mine has a stud by the entry door and not another one until bedroom window. The walls are made up of rigid foam for the support. Not many studs. Only around windows and doors. Agree 100% 5th wheels should come with grab handles.
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07-10-2016, 03:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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M.O.C. #12156
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ishler
If your talking about the entrance to the bedroom on the 3610 there are no metal studs in the hall/steps area only wooden and probably 2x2
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3910, solid installation
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07-10-2016, 03:31 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 366
M.O.C. #8881
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I installed one in our 3000rk.. found one 2 x 2 stud but on the other end of the handle was only a 1 x 2 but I still made it work..
Lfw
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07-10-2016, 03:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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On my 2955Rl on the top rail mount I used brass through bolts and used a decrotive 3x3 oak back plate in the potty room.
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07-10-2016, 03:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
The Montana 3665RE has a wood handle on the right side of the door frame as you are leaving the trailer. I purchased 2 of these from Keystone when the trailer was new.
In order to find the studs you will have to find someone with a good treasure hunter’s metal detector. You can locate the studs using that. I have one made by a company named White. You should be able to find a local dealer and tell him what you need and he should be able to put you in contact with someone local that has a unit.
This is not a stud finder.
This is what they look like.
Phil P
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07-11-2016, 04:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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That's the same one I bought and attached to the wall studs. Looks OEM and very solid. Here it is: http://www.trekwood.com/products/104...y-Icarus-Pecan
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quote:Originally posted by DQDick
Older Montana's had an inside (suicide stair) and then three outside stairs. Those rigs, like ours, had an inside grab handle at the exit door. I just ordered another and installed it on the inside stairs.
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07-13-2016, 01:12 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Troutdale
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M.O.C. #17731
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To all thanks again. I've ordered the handle and will deal with the stud search issue when it arrives.
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07-13-2016, 03:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Olympia
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At $51 each I guess I need to start making grab handles. It looks like there is a market for these.
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08-07-2016, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: HICKORY
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M.O.C. #18468
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Drifty1 I was thinking the same, at least make myself a couple, as my M-I-L could use them, and I'm getting there fast !
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08-08-2016, 07:36 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Terrell
Posts: 353
M.O.C. #10881
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My wood shop buddy looked at the hand bar inside the main door and made me two for the stair way. $5......
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08-08-2016, 12:49 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Troutdale
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M.O.C. #17731
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Got my handle but haven't installed it yet. Ordered from Tara RV for $32 including shipping.
Did a couple of small exploratory pilot holes looking for a stud but no luck. I may resort to dry wall anchors.
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08-13-2016, 02:21 PM
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06-19-2018, 02:01 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Schertz
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M.O.C. #20789
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Grab handles for inside stair in 3121RL
There was no inside stair railing in my 3121RL, and the dealer would not install one due to a lack of adequate structure along the outside wall. So, rather than a rail, I mounted two grab handles to the sides of the wood-framed cubby on the inside wall. (sorry about the sideways pics)
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06-19-2018, 02:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
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M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Behn
There was no inside stair railing in my 3121RL, and the dealer would not install one due to a lack of adequate structure along the outside wall. So, rather than a rail, I mounted two grab handles to the sides of the wood-framed cubby on the inside wall. (sorry about the sideways pics)
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If you open the thumbnails you can see the handles. Nice Mod great workaround.
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