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07-13-2008, 11:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1,475
M.O.C. #6237
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Sewer hookup
When hooking up the sewer this weekend I took the cap off and got a discharge of black water. I looked around and the only thing I could figure was causing the leak was something moving the discharge handle so I screwed 2 pieces of Velcro diagonally behind the handle to hold it in so it can't move out unless the Velcro is unfastened. Hope this solves the problem and it is not a leaking valve.
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07-13-2008, 01:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Troy
Posts: 1,980
M.O.C. #808
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hookman, I can't explain why it does it, but the darn pipe just seems to have water buildup somehow! You'll notice some of us have added an extra valve at the discharge end to keep this from happening. The added valve runs about $15 at Camping World and screws on just like the cap, try it, you'll like it!
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07-13-2008, 01:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
M.O.C. #1658
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I have found with ours that even after the valves are closed it takes a while for everything to completely drain out. If I try to hurry things I will get a surprise when I remove the cap
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07-13-2008, 01:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
Posts: 6,382
M.O.C. #2059
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Another more lasting solution is to put a slide valve at the end of your discharge outlet. You can get one at almost any RV store. You do have to remember to open that valve when all is hooked up. The slide valve will keep you from having a pint of surprise when you take the cap off.
I cut off the bayonet end of the pipe and glued the valve on with PVC pipe cement. By cutting the old end off, the new valve is behind the wheel track in case of a blowout. Get a valve with the bayonet connection on the end.
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07-13-2008, 01:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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I have a "honey dew" bucket. When I am ready to remove the cap I put the bucket under it. With all the rinsing I do all I get is about a cup of clear water. I did forget to close the galley tank once, but it was just an overnighter and got about a gallon of water in the bucket. I just dump it in the sewer line when I take the cap off the CG sewer drop. I like my bucket.
I may go the way of the end cap replacement as described above.
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07-13-2008, 02:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 1,574
M.O.C. #1358
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I like the idea of a bucket too...had that little surprise more than once. It usually comes from my slow kitchen drain - I just don't have the patience to wait it out - when it's time to go, it's time to go!
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07-13-2008, 03:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Lobelville
Posts: 2,128
M.O.C. #6650
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I also use the Honey bucket, and have used this system on all 4 5th wheels we have owned. The only thing I would add is, I use rubber gloves. GBY.....
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07-13-2008, 03:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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I forgot to add, I keep a box of disposable latex gloves in the basement next to the bucket! I use them to attach and detach the sewer hoses and accessories.
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07-14-2008, 12:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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I seen one of the clear elbows that Bingo had over the weekend. I like how well that works, you can see when it has emptied out then just simply disconnect. I think I will be getting one of them. I also have a slide valve at the end of the drain as mentioned.
Here is a photo
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07-14-2008, 02:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish
Posts: 579
M.O.C. #5583
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We have added the aftermarket slide valve for the end of the overall drain pipe. This is available at Camping World and requires no modifications whatsoever. Just snaps on to the same lock pins as the original cap. And the original cap goes on it for another level of protection. Have had no problem since this addition. I would recommend it highly. Remeber, how well the pipes drain completely may not be solved by waiting longer. It may be more influenced by how level the RV is when draining.
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07-15-2008, 05:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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The best way is to put the after market valve on the outlet. Only problem is securing it while traveling. You have to make sure you have it secured or it will wiggle itself off. Ours did, and now when I use one, I make sure it is secured for traveling.
Orv
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07-15-2008, 07:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hesperia
Posts: 1,321
M.O.C. #7787
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All of you that have added the adapter extension,are you cutting back the original like Stiles did? If not,aren't you worried about blowing a tire and having the contents of your storage tanks all over the highway. That worries me!
Stiles,by cutting the old end off will the new valve slide over the old pipe?
Jack
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07-15-2008, 07:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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As you may have seen in the photo I linked to on the last page, I glued a slide valve into the pipe at the outlet of the drain. I'm not worried about the tire breaking the piping in the event of a blow-out where the fitting is approximately 1&1/2' away from the front tire.
On another note this modification was done because I think I had a leaking valve on one of the tanks and also to allow extra storage room for grey water where I have a fairly long line to the galley tank.
I rarely travel with anything in the tanks, thus this would avoid any problems with spilling anything while traveling should some un-foreseen incident occur.
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07-15-2008, 07:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Snohomish
Posts: 579
M.O.C. #5583
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I have looked at the the position of the extra valve installation and yes it does have increased exposure in case of a tire failure/tread separation. Haven't had that problem yet but that is probably next. I'm just so tired of dealing with problems on our late 2006 3400RL that it just adds to the list. What priority should it have? I suspect that allot more additional damage would occur at road speeds in addition to this external valve. Can't live in fear of everything!
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07-27-2008, 06:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1,475
M.O.C. #6237
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Since I put the velcro straps over the handles I have had no surprises. I seen the straps I used at Camping World But I think the wife bought them at Walmart. They are for holding rolled up extension cords and hoses. I used 2 , 1 screwed on above and 1 below the handle, and have hooked up 3 times without any suprises.
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07-27-2008, 08:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs
Posts: 3,711
M.O.C. #3120
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Oldguard taught me the trick of using a piece of plumbers metal tape and attaching it to the bayonet slide valve and to the frame of the Monte. The added valve will not twist off without removing one of the screws.
If you only pull the slide valve after you attach the disposal hose, there will not be any surprises.
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07-27-2008, 08:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kelowna
Posts: 1,475
M.O.C. #6237
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I think when I pulled something out of storage it caught the handle and when I pushed the item back in it closed it with these straps it won't happen again
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