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Old 04-15-2016, 06:32 PM   #1
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Damage from Tire Blowouts

Other than appropriate tire maintenance, have you done anything to your Montana to help protect it from any collateral damage that might occur from a tire blowout? If so, please share.

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Old 04-15-2016, 07:24 PM   #2
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Yes, upgraded to Goodyear G614 tires and maintain them at 110 psi, have a TPMS system, visually inspect them and regularly check the tires with an infrared temperature device. I can't see any way of adding any barriers that would stop damage from a blowout. Best to avoid the blowout instead of expecting it to happen.
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:16 AM   #3
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Don't know that you can do anything to the Montana. As for the tires, I keep them properly inflated, on boards when stored, treated with Aerospace 303 when travelling, and covered when in a CG.
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:35 AM   #4
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I have always suspected many tire blow outs happen to newer fivers because the owners leave the underrated tires on them. Many new fivers, including Montana's, come with cheap underrated tires that may get the unit from northern Indiana to the dealer but not much further. Then we purchase the units, add 1,500 to 2,500 pounds of personal gear, and rip down the highway for our first blowout.

The only way I know of to best protect a Montana from blowout damage is to have the properly rated tires (usually G), and install a TPMS. If a tire does start to deflate at least your TPMS with immediately let you know.
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Old 04-16-2016, 03:03 AM   #5
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G rated tires properly inflated and TPMS are the best protection I know of.
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We have been very happy with G614 tires. We also run TST flow thru TPMS. Good tires, proper inflation and inspection are the best we have found in our almost 13 years of Montana ownership. We also used to IR check at stops, but the TPMS gives me temp as well.
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Old 04-16-2016, 04:32 AM   #7
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Nothing can protect from a blowout that is a "sudden and unexpected failure" however most blowouts are really a result of a gradual and undetected loss of PSI and once the tires comes off the rim it looks and feels like a blowout.Good tires and most of all a Tire Monitor system can greatly reduce damage. We have never had a "blowout in over 80K of travel but have had several loss of psi incid ebts detected by out Tire monitor system allowing us to get off the road before any damage.Cost of damage to RV due t o a "blowout" can be several thousand $$.Cost of a tire monitor system 300 or so $$$.
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We're with everyone else. G 614's currently with over 45,000 miles, tire monitors, tire covers when parked and plastic placemats under the tires if we are ever parked on concrete (those little black marks tires leave when parked on concrete for any length of time is the anti-aging chemical leaching out, only concrete does that.
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We're with everyone else. G 614's currently with over 45,000 miles, tire monitors, tire covers when parked and plastic placemats under the tires if we are ever parked on concrete (those little black marks tires leave when parked on concrete for any length of time is the anti-aging chemical leaching out, only concrete does that.
Dick, I did not know this. I've heard what I considered "old wive's tales", same for batteries on concrete, but not ever an explanation. Thank you!
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:50 AM   #10
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I agree with above. Well cared for, good quality tires is the best you can do. Nothing short of armor plating will stop collateral damage. A TPMS can help prevent damage due to a tire losing pressure and then coming apart. But even a TMS cannot prevent damage due to a true blowout. I have TPMS on my truck. But recently had a blowout (instant loss of pressure with no warning) that destroyed my right side rear fender. First blowout ever in over 50 yrs driving, but it was a doozy.

I am an advocate of TPMS though as I also feel most tire failures are due to running a tire after it has become low on pressure. And that don't happen only when you are stopped and able to check it.
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Old 04-16-2016, 11:00 AM   #11
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I don't think Keystone puts "under rated" tires on the Montanas. They are required to put tires on them that meet the load requirements...it's just that use cheap Chinese tires that don't hold up well.
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Underrated as soon as you load up for travel. Keystone is irresponsible
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:39 PM   #13
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I think you will find when doing the math, that for a 17k Montana, subtracting 20% for PW, the OEM tires meet the requirement for max load capability. I'm not supporting Keystone or the tire manufacturers...the manufacturer puts out lousy tires and Keystone uses them because they are cheap. But, technically, Keystone is meeting the requirement to have tires rated for the GVWR load they might carry.
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Tom is correct. The tires meet the required spec's that does not mean they are high quality tires only that they meet the spec's. It would not make any sense for a manufacturer to put tires on a Rv that did not meet spec's. Their legal eagles are smarter than that.
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Old 04-16-2016, 04:31 PM   #15
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Hear the warning. Rid yourself of the "delivery tires" and find a good LT (6k axles), or G (7k axles) to do the actual work of towing your Montana around. As in what appears to be all aspects of manufacturing, the cheapest way out providing the highest profit margin is how we do business in these United States. Long as it will stand up in court. Which it will. You just have to plan on paying big $$ and then replacing parts that have to actually work for a period of time before getting what you thought you were paying for in the first place. My '10 may not be the latest and greatest, but I know what it is, and what it needs. I've already spent the extra $$ on stuff that it should have had leaving the dealer. I'll stick with it because I know if I decide to buy new, I'll be starting all over again. This is NOT a good time for the consumer. My opinion only.
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Old 04-17-2016, 04:56 AM   #16
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We have spent many $$ bringing both of our Montana's up to the standards we require for our travel and lifestyle. If we were weekenders or low end users we probably would not have spent most of those $$. Tires, suspension, Tire monitoring systems. Rear view camera, Better hitch on Rv and in truck.

These Rv's are not designed for the use that many of us put them to and many buyers would not pay the price to have what I feel is needed for our travel needs.We have come a long way the buyer can arrange to have G614 tires and Mor Ryde IS and Disc brakes installed and pay the price. We have well over 5K $$ invested in this 13 3402 to meet our travel needs and that does not include improvements to our holding tank support system to prevent failures.
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Old 04-17-2016, 06:22 AM   #17
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I think Sambam has it right. Many tire problems occur with the very first set of tires that are on the rig. This was true for me on the two trailers I owned - a TT with original Carlisles, and my current Monty with Missions. Every other set of tires I've owned were cared for and monitored by me and I've not had any type of factory failure. I'm sure the original delivery driver was responsible for abusing the tires prior to my ownership.

Admittedly, the only other tire failure I've had was when I got too close to a curb when towing my trailer, then both tires were dragged into a drop for a rain drain and I ended up destroying the tires on the curb side as they contacted the curb. But that was my fault for getting too close to the drain curb and I deserved the ensuing problem and yes, I learned a lesson about being more aware of this condition.

I've used ST tires exclusively and have had good luck with them and attribute that to advice, experience and knowledge gained from my own or MOC members research and experiences and no more abusing my tires.
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Old 04-17-2016, 09:27 AM   #18
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Pretty much what others have noted....we put the G614's and the TST 507 Flow Thru tire pressure monitors on.

You do need to always check the tires for damage, etc. As there is a lot of stress on these when making turns. Regardless of how good the tire is supposed to be stuff happens.

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I find it interesting to compare our tires with OEM motor home tires. We don't do it much now, but in the past we used to do lots of travelling with three motor homes...we were the only 5th wheel. Our tires were always a concern, they checked their's (every once in a while) and nobody ever had a problem. Based on my limited knowledge of their tires, there are two primary reasons they had no trouble:

- Our ST OEM tires are Chinese, MH tires are made here or Japan.
- Our tires are used at capacity or near capacity. MH tires are operating with a huge reserve. It was not uncommon for one set of friends to have tires on one side of their dually axle with the total capacity of the two tires of nearly 14,000#. So on a typical 20,000# axle, at max capacity, the MH had tires with a combined weight carrying ability of 28,000# on an axle weighing no more than 20,000#. Bottom line, our tires are at max capacity, MH tires have a 2,000# reserve per tire.
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G614 and a tire monitoring system. When we weighed our unit the weight on the tires ran between 3400-3500 pounds per tire. I can assure you the tires that come on the unit will not handle that.
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