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07-10-2019, 07:31 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Brownwood
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #14197
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RV Fridge or Residential Fridge?
The Dometic in our 2015 3825 RL has determined to function quite poorly and will no longer maintain a satisfactory temperature. Our local service man has eyeballed it all over and is stumped and his next idea is to change the thermister (yeah I know that isn't spelt right but it's all I got) which seems like a sound try to me. This is the sensor (it would likely have been called a thermostat a few decades ago) that decides if the box is cool enough or not and commands more or less cooling.
A few weeks ago when we reported for our weekly stay of two nights the plastic burning smell was quite overpowering. We ventilated and looked all over for anything that could have melted and found nothing. Everything continued to function as expected but the fridge began to warm up over the following days while we were away. We returned to find a warmer than comfortable fridge and suspected something in the back had given up. He looked and looked and checked and checked some more and so did we but we located nothing and did not ever smell any ammonia so likely an ammonia leak is not the reason for the gradual failure.
All of which is an awful lot of background for the question. Ought we consider changing over to a residential fridge if this one is found to be not economically repairable? The answer to which could lead to a lot of questions. Will a residential unit fit the fridge space, what will have to be done to maintain the cold on a long day of travel, is a residential really less expensive than an RV style fridge? All y'all are welcome to add some more questions or send some answers as suits your fancy.
He tells me that a new cooling unit will run in the vicinity of $1,600 bucks, a new RV fridge will run around $4,500 bucks and a residential should run around $3 grand. More or less. We do not have a genset so making 'lectricity while traveling is not happening and I am not really in the mood to have one anyway.
I am not yet knowing if we have a serious failure or a failure of one or more of the component parts. If and when we solve that troubling question will it be time to make the big bucks decision.
Thank all y'all in advance account it might be a few days afore I can check back to see what you said or didn't say.
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07-10-2019, 08:23 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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If and when we have issues with our frig we will be replacing the cooling unit with an Amish unit.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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07-11-2019, 07:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,329
M.O.C. #3699
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DQDick
If and when we have issues with our frig we will be replacing the cooling unit with an Amish unit.
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What is an "Amish unit?"
Thanks
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Bob and Nancy Kassl Fall Creek, Wisconsin
2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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07-17-2019, 01:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,471
M.O.C. #13325
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RKassl
What is an "Amish unit?"
Thanks
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https://jc-refrigeration.com/
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07-10-2019, 09:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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I'm with DQDICK on the Amish unit when that time comes! If you do a residential Frig you will always need 110 volt AC to run it ether off shore power or a inverter off your battery bank when traveling. We like the RV frig but we also boondock.
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Bob & Carol Washington St
2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
Happy Trails
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07-11-2019, 08:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We had to replace the cooling units on both our 06 and 13 Montana due to poor performance, We replaced them with with the Amish units located in Shipshewana, Ind and never another problem. We used our extended service contract for the replacement.
Google Amish RV Refrigeration Company located in Shipshewana IN. There is more than one.
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07-11-2019, 09:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Our 2008 & 2012 Montana fivers had RV reefers and the current 2018.5 has the Samsung residential and we prefer it by far. It depends on how long you travel per day. We travel 6 hours or less and it would be no problem for it to be unplugged that long. In our case I would replace with a residential and it can be done for MUCH less than 3 grand. I would measure my space available very carefully and then take my tape measure shopping.
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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07-11-2019, 10:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
Posts: 1,522
M.O.C. #18081
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I also would look at converting to DC high efficiency as well. YouTube it if you are not familiar.
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2015 Volvo VNL780 D13, iShift, 32k ET air hitch, Idle Free LiFePO4 APU
16.8KWhr LiFePO4, 2.52 kw solar, 10kva Victron split phase
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07-11-2019, 10:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Full Timer In Naples, Florida
Posts: 1,049
M.O.C. #15731
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Been there, Done that. new cooing unit, many fans and still not a satisfactory operation of our Norcold 1210 as it was costing more in spoiled food than it was worth. These fridges can not keep up here in Naples Florida heat and humidity in the summer, so out it went for a 4 door Frigidaire. For us that was the best upgrade we have done so far besides the dometic 320 toilet. We full time so i would not have an RV fridge again if we bought a new one, But if i camped I would.
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2017, 3500 Ram Big Horn, 4x4, Crew Cab, DRW, Aisin Transmission, 4:10. Curt Q20, 2014 Mountaineer 331 RLT, Sailun's on the rv and truck.
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07-11-2019, 04:55 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Brownwood
Posts: 86
M.O.C. #14197
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Thanks all y'all. My tech has one more try in mind before the next decision is made. He has used many of the Amish units and likes them which is another good recommendation for them.
I'll letcha know what the results are.
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07-11-2019, 05:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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I think the answer to your question depends more on how you use your RV than what kind of refrigerator is actually better.
If you don't boondock I would suggest that a residential fridge is by far the best choice and you will get a lot more fridge for your dollar. Plus you can replace it extremely easily at any big box store.
But if you do boondock, then an RV dual fuel style fridge is about the only way to go.
Since we are full time in one location for the next several years it wasn't even a question it is residential all the way and I am very happy with that choice. Even when we were weekend warriors the residential was still our preference as we always stayed where there was power except during transit. The residential will keep food cold for quite a while even without power IF you don't open the door on them. Most especially if you freeze some water bottles and leave them in it.
In fact, we would be happy with a totally electric camper (IE: no butane or 12volt) if they made such a beast and the electric could heat the unit on 50amp service. I suspect we will in fact start seeing totally AC electric units on the market before to long. They would be less expensive for sure and easier to maintain. And to be honest I can't think of a good reason to have anything else if you never boondock......
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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08-06-2019, 05:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtlakejim
I think the answer to your question depends more on how you use your RV than what kind of refrigerator is actually better.
If you don't boondock I would suggest that a residential fridge is by far the best choice and you will get a lot more fridge for your dollar. Plus you can replace it extremely easily at any big box store.
But if you do boondock, then an RV dual fuel style fridge is about the only way to go.
Since we are full time in one location for the next several years it wasn't even a question it is residential all the way and I am very happy with that choice. Even when we were weekend warriors the residential was still our preference as we always stayed where there was power except during transit. The residential will keep food cold for quite a while even without power IF you don't open the door on them. Most especially if you freeze some water bottles and leave them in it.
In fact, we would be happy with a totally electric camper (IE: no butane or 12volt) if they made such a beast and the electric could heat the unit on 50amp service. I suspect we will in fact start seeing totally AC electric units on the market before to long. They would be less expensive for sure and easier to maintain. And to be honest I can't think of a good reason to have anything else if you never boondock......
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There is already such a beast. Guy I know has a 2018-19? entegra Espire deilsel pusher (I know, not a fifth wheel ) but it is all electric. No propane what so ever. Heat pumps and aqua hot that burns diesel. Electric induction stove etc.
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2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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07-12-2019, 08:36 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Myrtle Beach
Posts: 81
M.O.C. #21038
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Our 2017 Monty has a Samsung res fridge... excellent... when driving, our umbilical cord has a charge line which feeds enough to keep the 2 batteries charged, with the inverter running......
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07-12-2019, 10:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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New Samsung 18 cu ft residential fits in same space as 12 cuft norcold and it is just about 1200. An inverter to keep it running while towing is about another 1200 or so...all depends on who does work and what parts are used. Fridge space does need to be modified, propane line needs to be removed, etc. So 3000 for all if someone is doing the work would be a good price.
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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02-29-2020, 08:28 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 12
M.O.C. #18102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcurtis934
New Samsung 18 cu ft residential fits in same space as 12 cuft norcold and it is just about 1200. An inverter to keep it running while towing is about another 1200 or so...all depends on who does work and what parts are used. Fridge space does need to be modified, propane line needs to be removed, etc. So 3000 for all if someone is doing the work would be a good price.
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Which fridge are you referencing? I’ve found an 18 sq feet one but it seems like it’s taller. Will modifications need to be done to fit?
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02-29-2020, 09:50 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Reno
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #13528
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The refer I installed was the Samsung RF18xxxx. It is taller, I had to cut out some of the top trim on the opening and removed the wheels. I probably could have removed some of the base instead but that looked easier to me.
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07-17-2019, 01:41 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Reno
Posts: 42
M.O.C. #23970
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We have a Samsung residential fridge and love it. Inverter will last 11hrs. But when hooked up and towing, your vehicle will keep charged with no problem. Ours is the 3701LK
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08-06-2019, 05:28 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: No Town
Posts: 432
M.O.C. #19482
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Track50
We have a Samsung residential fridge and love it. Inverter will last 11hrs. But when hooked up and towing, your vehicle will keep charged with no problem. Ours is the 3701LK
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That is what I thought. We have the 2017 3791RD and the Residential Fridge runs just fine when hooked up and towing. Not sure what all the discussion is about?
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2017 Montana 3791RD, 2017 RAM 3500 Diesel Dually, Aisin, 4.10, Sailuns, Disk Brakes, TST TPMS.
Don: USAF Ret., Fighter Pilot - Vietnam Vet '66-'67 & Ann: Ret., Texas A&M Ph.D.
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09-08-2019, 09:18 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Reno
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #13528
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I have a 2017 3790RD and want to replace the RV fridge with a residential unit. Would you mind sharing the make and model number of the fridge installed in your 3791RD?
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07-17-2019, 01:52 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Amherstburg
Posts: 7
M.O.C. #23698
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fixyourfridge
Theres a great place about a mile north of Shipshewana called National RV Refrigeration. Leon is an Amish fella who deals in used ; scratch and dent, and new or refurbished A/C or fridge units. I recommend him highly. When the ammonia tank blew on my '05 3650 RK I pulled the unit out and plugged the propane line; luckily I was only an hour north of him in Union Lake Michigan and he had a brand new Dometic scratched(couldn't even tell);
swapped out my wood inlays and had me in and out in less than an hour for an unbelievable price. He also (having been an assembler at Keystone) modified the venting so to better allow the fridge to function for displacing heat so it will last longer. Full warranty! saved thousands from what my Canadian dealers quoted me.AND was well worth the trip to Shipshewana.
Just saying.....
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