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12-12-2019, 05:58 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sugar camp
Posts: 104
M.O.C. #23908
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Level up questions
Set up at site think I should relevel to firm up again after a couple weeks. Do I push auto level or move Jacks manually
If I push auto level does it just tweek or go thru major moves. Stairs down sides in or out.
Thanks for the help!
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12-12-2019, 06:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Since it will show you on the pad how much and where you are off, I just do it manually. If you have the MorRyde type stairs be sure they are up before you start. You don't need to bring the slides in. If you push auto level you'll go thru the whole drop the nose and relevel, too much chance to screw something up for me although I know people who have done it.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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12-12-2019, 06:27 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sugar camp
Posts: 104
M.O.C. #23908
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Ok got info, but where do I go to determine what to move?
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12-13-2019, 08:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 841
M.O.C. #20949
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Scroll thru menu on level up till,you see display showing front to back and side to side. Then adjust in manual mode the side or front to back till display shows 0.0 or close to it. You can also use an old fashioned level placed in floor in fifth wheel or use a cell phone level app
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12-13-2019, 08:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We are on a concrete pad on our Florida and it is rare that we go out of level in the 6 months we are here. Our final level is determined by the bathroom door setting it so that it does not swing open or shut which results is a slight front end up angle
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12-13-2019, 01:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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The control pad should show a led on when that area is low, be it front, back, left, or right. Power on, up arrow, enter on the panel takes you to manual mode. If front is low according to led, push the front level button to raise it. Trying to lower a high side, left or right, will usually result in pulling up the mid and rear levelers...at least on mine
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12-14-2019, 07:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Just remember that the leveling sensors are on the frame and we are leveling the frame .That does not mean the rest of the RV is level.
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12-14-2019, 07:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 664
M.O.C. #10985
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I releveled my 20183791 RD last week. I just hit auto level and the front came up slightly. The system stopped and said successful.
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12-15-2019, 09:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,896
M.O.C. #9561
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Really don't typically relevel.
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12-17-2019, 10:14 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Sugar camp
Posts: 104
M.O.C. #23908
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Not really out of level but more rock than in beginning. Thought I'd firm up jacks but none feel loose.
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12-18-2019, 01:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Richmond, TX
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #20452
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I have found when snowbirding on gravel that re-leveling is needed due to settling. Or maybe it is due to hydraulic fluid seepage past a valve. Anyway, I pressed autolevel. You can also tinker with manual settings. I have changed tires out while snowbirding where I raised up the camper, then autoleveled. This produces a level camper but tends to be 4-6 inches higher than before. So I lowered the camper a bit manually then autoleveled. :-)
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2012 Keystone Montana 3150RL 5th Wheel
2012 Ford F350 Diesel 4x4 Lariat Crewcab SRW
6.7L V-8 diesel, 6-sp automatic, 3.55 axle ratio
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12-18-2019, 02:10 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Idaho Falls
Posts: 22
M.O.C. #17294
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Like Rich, we check the bathroom door, usually have to lift the front a little
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12-20-2019, 03:42 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Harrisburg
Posts: 40
M.O.C. #19709
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Lippert has told me if you auto level with
the slides out you take the chance of twisting
the frame. I don't know if that just applied to ours
we have a 2017 3791RD with 5 slides.
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12-20-2019, 10:17 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Kissimmee
Posts: 46
M.O.C. #25226
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My hydraulic pump died today
I have this Montana 3921 FB and the hydraulic pump went bad,Lippert Component what a company that just cover their product for a year only and don’t stand behind his produc now it cost 1200 the pump alone
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12-21-2019, 03:46 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Richmond, TX
Posts: 109
M.O.C. #20452
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Two summers ago the electric motor on my hydraulic system failed and I replaced it myself. Lippert was great over the phone, helping me to diagnose the problem. The new motor cost $900 (ouch!) but it was not hard to replace.
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2012 Keystone Montana 3150RL 5th Wheel
2012 Ford F350 Diesel 4x4 Lariat Crewcab SRW
6.7L V-8 diesel, 6-sp automatic, 3.55 axle ratio
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12-28-2019, 08:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,175
M.O.C. #6433
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The problem could be a bad motor. It could also be the polarity reversing contactor on top of the motor (basically a heavy duty DC rated relay). The click is probably the contactor actuating. But that doesn't necessarily mean it is supplying voltage to the motor. It could also be a bad wire connection.
There are three large terminals on top of the contactor. The cable from the battery connects to the center one after passing thru an auto reset circuit breaker. The terminal on one side of the center supplies voltage to run the motor forward and the terminal on the other side supplies voltage to run the motor in reverse. I don't think there are any markings to tell which is which. Then there is a large terminal on the side that has a wire going to ground (frame). There are two small wires on the contactor that come from the ext/ret switch. Make sure all those connections are tight.
Below is a picture of mine, although it is an older model.
There should be a constant good 12+ volts on the center terminal when referenced to ground. If not then there is a problem with power to the contactor.
If good voltage on the center terminal, then have someone actuate the extend switch while you check voltage at the terminals on either side of the center terminal. One or the other should show that same 12 volts when the switch is actuated. Same thing on the other terminal when the retract switch is actuated.
If you are getting voltage to the motor terminals when the ext/ret switch is actuated then likely the motor is bad. I would look for a manufacturer name and part number on the motor and then google it to see if it can be found for a lower price.
If you are not getting voltage to the motor terminals when the contactor clicks, then the contactor is likely bad. Same thing about googling.
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2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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12-29-2019, 05:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,896
M.O.C. #9561
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for the original question....you don't have to re-level if trailer is still level.
but if you do, do it manually.
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