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02-13-2013, 08:35 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Alexandria
Posts: 82
M.O.C. #12203
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What were the Engineers thinking?
I have found out the hard way that the furnace (output) is located in a bad location for the Montana 3800re. I had my main door open to allow some fresh air in the unit . The temperature fluctuation is all over the place here in central Florida, cold at night and hot during the day. Well , with mine front door completely opened, the furnace kicked on and burned the back side of the door.
Just wondering if any of you have experience this situation? What were the engineers thinking by placing the furnace in this location. My neighbor has a Big Horn , the furnace was placed on the opposite side of the trailer. When comparing the two units it appears the Heartland engineers where thinking out of the box or should I say anticipating the problem I am confronted with.
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02-13-2013, 10:01 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Moriches
Posts: 418
M.O.C. #6436
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Which model do you have?
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02-13-2013, 12:25 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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That is an odd placement. Our furnace is next to the convenience center under the stairs.
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02-13-2013, 12:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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I noticed that about a friend's 3800. I believe his water heater is next to the furnace also. I don't think I could live with that. His door has a device that only lets his door open 90 degrees so it won't open against the furnace.
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02-13-2013, 12:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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Mine on the 3000 is pretty close to the door and it has always worried me thinking that might happen.
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02-13-2013, 01:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 908
M.O.C. #7915
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I'm convinced a great number of engineers, though very smart folks, are not campers and have spent a night in an RV...much less one they are designing.
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02-13-2013, 02:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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Not only are they not campers they have no common sense either......
It don't take a camper to think that just maybe they would want the light switches by the door. Not all the way inside the rig by the bathroom and stairs?????
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02-13-2013, 02:59 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,359
M.O.C. #4831
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Both the 3800 and the 3700 have the water heater and the furnace very close to the door. This is the price you pay for having an extra storage area (and a super slide) on the street side. To mitigate the possible problem of either the heater or the furnace exhaust burning the door, Montana provides a gas strut on the door which limits the travel to 90+ degrees.
What happened to it?
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02-13-2013, 04:26 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Walla Walla
Posts: 141
M.O.C. #12821
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Sounds like Keystone owes you a new door, our 3800 came with the gas strut so it will only open 90 degrees, they must of forgot yours
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02-14-2013, 12:33 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Alexandria
Posts: 82
M.O.C. #12203
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The gas strut broke off the door within the first month. Ironically I have an appointment with Lazy Dayzs on Monday to take care of some warrenty work. This appointment was made two months ago.
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02-14-2013, 01:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,284
M.O.C. #11675
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Sorry to hear about your door. Hopefully they will work out something for you. Your truck and trailer look awesome together by the way!
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02-14-2013, 03:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location:
Posts: 2,156
M.O.C. #6920
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Not only the issue mentioned here but it is also on the "entertainment" side of the rig I realize most of us would not be outside if the heater was on due to cold but still seems to be a bad placement of the heater exhaust and the water heater.
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02-14-2013, 05:15 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,359
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Blk_Adventurer
The gas strut broke off the door within the first month. Ironically I have an appointment with Lazy Dayzs on Monday to take care of some warrenty work. This appointment was made two months ago.
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Make sure Lazy Days attaches the strut with a more secure method. Larger sheet metal screws don't solve the problem. There isn't enough "meat" in the door metal to hold the screws for the strut in the wind. Mine lasted four hours in the gentle breezes of Yuma. My dealer used some kind of nut assembly (I forgot the correct name) and bolts to anchor my strut. It has held up in all kinds of wind storms.
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02-14-2013, 05:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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If the furnace is turned on at all I don't leave the main door open because if the furnace is kicking in there's a lot of wasted fuel to heat a rig that is no longer closed up.
While the furnace output is not fully behind the door when it's open on my rig, it is very close and the edge of my door might experience what you describe. I think the designers were figuring that having the door open and running the furnace is not the usual configuration.
Lessened learned, but if you want the furnace on AND some fresh air when the temps are all over the place, would you consider cracking windows open or the using the overhead fantastic fan instead (if equipped), not the main door?
We sure have to pay a lot more attention when using the rig and having to monitor the weather. Like you say, the cold and hot spots of the rig are much more prevalent in a trailer since everything is on a smaller scale and much more prone to fluctuations.
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02-14-2013, 04:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Yup, the door of my convenience center only opens 90 degrees, Has a rubber stop to prevent it from opening further so it doesn't block the furnace exhaust. I put a retaining fastener on it to keep the wind from blowing the door around.
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quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime
I noticed that about a friend's 3800. I believe his water heater is next to the furnace also. I don't think I could live with that. His door has a device that only lets his door open 90 degrees so it won't open against the furnace.
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