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09-05-2023, 02:43 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2022
Location: Moose Jaw
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #30985
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Axle Issues
We have a 2022 Montana 3863 BP and just wondering if anyone out there is having issues with the alignment on their axles.
it is a 41 foot trailer with tandem leaf spring axles and it seems that the camber or toe-in/out seems to have gone as the front tire is wearing out on the outside tread.
the trailer only has 10,000 km (6,000 miles) on it and have already had the axles aligned once (last fall)
Is this a common problem with these size of trailers that they require constant alignment corrections?
Setting up an appointment for another axle alignment next week before we head south.
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2019 Ford F-350 King Ranch
2022 Montana 3763 BP
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09-05-2023, 03:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 175
M.O.C. #33285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cste1957
We have a 2022 Montana 3863 BP and just wondering if anyone out there is having issues with the alignment on their axles.
it is a 41 foot trailer with tandem leaf spring axles and it seems that the camber or toe-in/out seems to have gone as the front tire is wearing out on the outside tread.
the trailer only has 10,000 km (6,000 miles) on it and have already had the axles aligned once (last fall)
Is this a common problem with these size of trailers that they require constant alignment corrections?
Setting up an appointment for another axle alignment next week before we head south.
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Can’t answer your question. But I see you are pulling with a f350. I’m getting ready to purchase a 2021 3761fl weight is just over 14k. What’s the weight of your rig and how does the 350 handle it it your a single or dual wheel
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Bob, Kay and our 3 pups Lily, Willis and Gizmo
Jacksonville, Nc
Retired LEO of 35 years enjoying life camping n fishing
2021 Montana 3761fl pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
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09-05-2023, 03:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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M.O.C. #30417
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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09-05-2023, 03:44 PM
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New Member
Join Date: May 2022
Location: Moose Jaw
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M.O.C. #30985
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Dry weight is also 14K
GVWR is 16.9K
and Hitch weight is 2980
Have air bags on the rear truck for the chucking and little sag without.
The F350 pulls with no problem, single axle.
Just hurts when you have to stop often and re-fuel.
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2019 Ford F-350 King Ranch
2022 Montana 3763 BP
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09-05-2023, 03:49 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 175
M.O.C. #33285
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cste1957
Dry weight is also 14K
GVWR is 16.9K
and Hitch weight is 2980
Have air bags on the rear truck for the chucking and little sag without.
The F350 pulls with no problem, single axle.
Just hurts when you have to stop often and re-fuel.
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Lol on fuel. But if we worried about fuel we would be pulling a camper. Thanks for the info. Some have been telling me a duly would be needed. I didn’t think so. That’s why I’m asking owners who pull with a 350
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Bob, Kay and our 3 pups Lily, Willis and Gizmo
Jacksonville, Nc
Retired LEO of 35 years enjoying life camping n fishing
2021 Montana 3761fl pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
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09-05-2023, 04:57 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Ridge spring
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M.O.C. #33012
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F350 drw
I am pulling a 3871RL with a 17 F350 DRW diesel. The SRW rear axle rating and load capacity is the problem with a SRW F350. My son 19 F350 cclb has a 11500 lb GVWR and a rear axle gawr of 7250 lbs with 3200 lbs load capacity. My F350 DRW has a 14000 lb GVWR, 9900 lb rear axle gawr and 5585 lbs load capacity. That's what you need to know before towing with a SRW F350. I went from a SRW Ram Mega Cab 3500 diesel SRW to my F350 DRW diesel. The stability difference was amazing on the F350
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09-05-2023, 07:40 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Jacksonville
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M.O.C. #33285
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My truck info
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Bob, Kay and our 3 pups Lily, Willis and Gizmo
Jacksonville, Nc
Retired LEO of 35 years enjoying life camping n fishing
2021 Montana 3761fl pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
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09-05-2023, 07:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
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Originally Posted by Gonefishing
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Long story short. More meat on on the ground the better sway control and better control in an emergency stop. A 1 ton is a 1 ton. At 13K and 70MPH I don't have any sway with my 2500 single. If I was pulling a 40' plus, putting weight aside, I'd have a duel axle just because of the law of physics.
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2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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09-06-2023, 07:39 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: St. Paul
Posts: 63
M.O.C. #32135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cste1957
We have a 2022 Montana 3863 BP and just wondering if anyone out there is having issues with the alignment on their axles.
it is a 41 foot trailer with tandem leaf spring axles and it seems that the camber or toe-in/out seems to have gone as the front tire is wearing out on the outside tread.
the trailer only has 10,000 km (6,000 miles) on it and have already had the axles aligned once (last fall)
Is this a common problem with these size of trailers that they require constant alignment corrections?
Setting up an appointment for another axle alignment next week before we head south.
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not a common problem but can happen again just like a car or truck
or the probelm was not correted the last time.
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09-06-2023, 07:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
Posts: 866
M.O.C. #16013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cste1957
We have a 2022 Montana 3863 BP and just wondering if anyone out there is having issues with the alignment on their axles.
it is a 41 foot trailer with tandem leaf spring axles and it seems that the camber or toe-in/out seems to have gone as the front tire is wearing out on the outside tread.
the trailer only has 10,000 km (6,000 miles) on it and have already had the axles aligned once (last fall)
Is this a common problem with these size of trailers that they require constant alignment corrections?
Setting up an appointment for another axle alignment next week before we head south.
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For the money you`ll spend on alignments and tires you could have put 7000 lb axles under it and forget about the issues. Easy enough to do your self and delivered to your house.
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F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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09-06-2023, 09:57 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Ridge spring
Posts: 18
M.O.C. #33012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cste1957
We have a 2022 Montana 3863 BP and just wondering if anyone out there is having issues with the alignment on their axles.
it is a 41 foot trailer with tandem leaf spring axles and it seems that the camber or toe-in/out seems to have gone as the front tire is wearing out on the outside tread.
the trailer only has 10,000 km (6,000 miles) on it and have already had the axles aligned once (last fall)
Is this a common problem with these size of trailers that they require constant alignment corrections?
Setting up an appointment for another axle alignment next week before we head south.
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I never had a issue on my last 41 foot 13500 lb fifth wheel. My 2022 Montana 3781RL doesn't seem to have any issues. I do have the gladiator axles. Have you weighed your trailer to check your axle load? Did you also check bearings and axle mounts to make sure nothing is loose or worn?
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09-06-2023, 12:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: everywhere, USA
Posts: 281
M.O.C. #28634
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We pull a 2021 3761FL with a 2019 F350 DRW with air bags and Companion 25k hitch. We're getting about 8.6 mpg and no issues with pulling the RV. In January I installed a 45 gal aux tank in the bed so we total about 90 gallons of fuel on board. No complaints, sometimes I forget the RV is back there!
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2021 Montana 3761FL, 9 LIFPO4 batteries & 1700 watts of panels w/ Multiplus II 3K inverter and 30amp DC to DC charger from truck. 8k Dexter axles w/ Kodiak disc brakes.
2019 6.7 diesel F350 DRW with Banks derringer and 4"exhaust, airlift bags, 25k B & W Companion hitch, 45 gal. aux. diesel tank and 14k Winch, just in case!
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09-06-2023, 01:08 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Ridge spring
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M.O.C. #33012
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Originally Posted by Todd & Mary
We pull a 2021 3761FL with a 2019 F350 DRW with air bags and Companion 25k hitch. We're getting about 8.6 mpg and no issues with pulling the RV. In January I installed a 45 gal aux tank in the bed so we total about 90 gallons of fuel on board. No complaints, sometimes I forget the RV is back there!
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Why did you add air bags? My 3781FL on my 17 F350 DRW has 3800 lbs of pin weight. Really no issues handling the weight. It does bounce a little harder then my old fifth wheel that had 2700 lbs pin weight.
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09-06-2023, 07:23 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: everywhere, USA
Posts: 281
M.O.C. #28634
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel guy
Why did you add air bags? My 3781FL on my 17 F350 DRW has 3800 lbs of pin weight. Really no issues handling the weight. It does bounce a little harder then my old fifth wheel that had 2700 lbs pin weight.
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The ride is not as jarring on rough roads, and it picked up the rear of the truck an inch to level it out. But mainly the ride is better.
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2021 Montana 3761FL, 9 LIFPO4 batteries & 1700 watts of panels w/ Multiplus II 3K inverter and 30amp DC to DC charger from truck. 8k Dexter axles w/ Kodiak disc brakes.
2019 6.7 diesel F350 DRW with Banks derringer and 4"exhaust, airlift bags, 25k B & W Companion hitch, 45 gal. aux. diesel tank and 14k Winch, just in case!
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09-10-2023, 02:59 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Queen Creek
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #25604
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Took my 3761fl to Spring and Axle shop in Phoenix. The did a great job.
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09-11-2023, 09:31 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Allen
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #28272
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Thousands of miles...
We have towed our 2017 40.5' 3811MS with our 2019 F350 SRW Crew Cab Long Bed 4WD 6.7 Diesel for thousands of miles with no issues. The Montana is about 17K loaded. Last summer, we did a 5500-mile trip - only issue was a cracked wheel with slow air leak - probably the result of a pothole. It rode mostly level before I put a dual steering stabilizer and 1.5" leveling kit on the front of the truck. Now, it rides a little nose high - but the wheel doesn't shake like crazy when you hit a pothole or significant bump.
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2019 F350 LB CC 4x4 6.7L PowerStroke
2017 Montana 3811MS
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