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11-11-2013, 02:21 PM
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Montana Master
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Good news Bingo. Mr. Tenacious, without a cape!!!
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11-11-2013, 02:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Frostproof
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Glad you got it fixed.
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11-12-2013, 03:10 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Chilliwack
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Always good to get a quick and inexpensive fix to a problem, especially when we are the creators of the problem.
Remember, positive is black and negative is white in these things...
Keep the mods up and it won't even be a Montana anymore, don't know what you might call it.
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11-12-2013, 04:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Irlpguy
Remember, positive is black and negative is white in these things...
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Unless some enterprising fool decides to add some red in there???? Not mentioning any names of course!
Bingo
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11-12-2013, 04:59 AM
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Montana Master
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11-12-2013, 05:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
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The line of least resistance doesn't always solve the problem. I will be needing a full wiring diagram in 3 years.
Glad you are up and running.
Mike
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11-12-2013, 05:27 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6846
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Got it all drawn up on the back of a napkin for you, Mike. Hopefully I won't accidentally use it for a cold or something in the next three years!!
Bingo
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11-12-2013, 06:12 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Hollister
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Nice job Bingo. Now what did you learn from all of this. Don't worry, the DW will not let you forget.
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11-12-2013, 06:52 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #6846
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Two lessons learned Joe:
1) When a Battery Isolation switch is wired on one battery to the negative terminal and the other battery is wired to the positive terminal from the switch and the ground wire connects the other positive and negative terminals, when both batteries are selected on the switch, interesting things happen. Namely, a non-translucent switch body does become translucent, and the weaker battery tends to self-destruct.
2) Do not overtighten the nuts on an auto-reset circuit breaker.
The main lesson learned is to really act sheepish and call yourself stupid and an idiot in front of the DW, and if you have a good one, they will take pity on you!!! The biggest lesson that I took from all of this which DW was kind enough to remind me of, is NOT TO GET IN A HURRY!! That is when stupid mistakes are made from not checking things first. I only hope that this lesson in humility serves someone else as a preventive measure!
Bingo
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11-12-2013, 07:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lafayette
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Don't feel like the Lone Ranger Bingo, I cooked two last year doing the same thing.
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11-12-2013, 07:36 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: South Shore
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Been watching, glad it worked out for you!
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11-12-2013, 12:52 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Colorado Springs
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Could you post a pic of your auto-reset circuit breakers?
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11-12-2013, 01:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
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11-12-2013, 02:21 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Chilliwack
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And here are pictures of mine in the battery compartment. Wiring may differ somewhat from model to model and I have a couple of added wires on mine to supply non Montana items.
Sometimes you can see the Amperage written on them without removing them from the wall, The specs on the left one of mine is visible the other is not.
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11-12-2013, 02:42 PM
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Site Team
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Bingo, glad it was a simple fix. Worrying about stuff like that takes years off lives.
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11-12-2013, 02:54 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by DQDick
Bingo, glad it was a simple fix. Worrying about stuff like that takes years off lives.
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Dick,
That is exactly why I choose to remain at the young age of 29!!!
Bingo
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11-12-2013, 06:32 PM
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Site Team
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Wise choice.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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11-13-2013, 04:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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Bingo.. Just a thought..I assume you have the series PD4300/PD 4500 Power control center....take a look at the operating guide. I had to do this when we had our power problem.
they have a "reverse battery protection Circuit" the explanation is on page two of my guide. "If a battery is accidently hooked up backwards, the converter will be protected. Easily accessible ATC type fuses will blow when a battery is connected in reverse"
Check your converter for proper operation.
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11-13-2013, 04:47 AM
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Montana Master
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Actually Rich, the service tech on the PDI explained this during our walk through. If it does not say it in the manual, the key is to replace all four 25 amp fuses at the same time. If you just try to replace one at a time, with the battery hooked up, they will blow. Battery must be unhooked, all four replaced, and battery hooked back up. I think in our situation, the marine battery switch took the brunt of the surge, I took it apart, and was amazed at the amount of copper that was gone. I cleaned it up and believe it is still usable, but the current surge caused it to arc between the switch plates which may have prevented anything from entering the rig. This is just supposition, but it does not appear that any damage was done to the rig's DC systems.
Bingo
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11-13-2013, 05:19 AM
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Montana Master
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Ok. There is a procedure in the manual to check the convertor for proper operation. If that little green light blinks every 6 to 8 seconds you are good. I did not know what that green light was for or what it was doing so I stooped to reading the operating manual. Amazing things in there.
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