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06-05-2014, 10:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Smoothing Out The Ride
My 2008 3400 was a little lighter overall and a little less tongue weight. However, my 3725 has the newer suspension so I expected it to take rougher roads better. I really don't think it does. It may handle pot holes a little better but it sure doesn't seem to handle the dips better. It seems to bounce in the front more. I have tried more pressure in my air bags but that only helps so much. I generally only run with 5 to 10 gallons of fresh water. Now I am wondering if I should be keeping 40 - 50 gallons of fresh water in my tank just to keep the rear of the Montana heavier, possibly preventing as much bouncing. Any ideas?
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Previous: 2008 Montana 3400RL & 2014 3725RL
Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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06-05-2014, 10:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Mor Ryde IS suspension with the amount of travel you do it may be worth the cost. we had the Mor Ryde IS on our 06 3400 and the first thing we both noticed was the "rough ride" of this 13 3402 as compared to the 06 with the Mor Ryde.
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06-05-2014, 12:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
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What kind of shocks are on your truck? I had excessive bounce and replaced the OEM's with Bilsteins and noticed a big difference.
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2010 Montana 3455SA, Mor/Ryde pin, wet bolts, TST 507, Progressive HW50C, GY G614
2019 Silverado D/A 3500HD LTZ DRW CC
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06-05-2014, 01:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location:
Posts: 608
M.O.C. #12894
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Change your shocks to Bilstiens in your TV. Had same problem with my new truck, at 5k miles I changed all shocks and steering damper. Much better now.
Adding and carrying more water will make it worse due to the wave effect rolling back and forth inside the tanks. The less water the lessor the effect.
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06-05-2014, 02:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Did you replace all 4?
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by sambam
What kind of shocks are on your truck? I had excessive bounce and replaced the OEM's with Bilsteins and noticed a big difference.
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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06-05-2014, 03:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
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Yes. I've used Bilsteins on all 3 of my Silverados. All 4 each time.
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2010 Montana 3455SA, Mor/Ryde pin, wet bolts, TST 507, Progressive HW50C, GY G614
2019 Silverado D/A 3500HD LTZ DRW CC
B&W Companion
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06-05-2014, 04:08 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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IS and 614's seemed to solve the issue for us also.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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06-05-2014, 05:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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Don't think the Bilstens will help with the trailer ride or stop its bouncing.. There are several things you got to do to make it run down the road smoothly. When I got this trailer it bounced around like a basketball. Broke a few dishes and discombobulated the frig. First get rid of the ST tires if you still have them. I have LT tires and they do help but there'e more. Get one of then suspension systems like IS or EZ Flex etc...I just have EZ Flex, it is the cheaper one but it does help....majorly... Trailer now runs along smooth and stuff stays in place...
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06-05-2014, 08:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,690
M.O.C. #12947
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We run with full water tank always. The truck has the Z71 package, which I believe has Bilsteins or similar as part of the package. We have the MorRyde suspension along with the MorRyde kingpin. The whole package rides great and we have broken nothing in about 16,000 miles over some of the nastiest roads this country has to offer. We have been very happy, especially since we upgraded to the G614's, which have added to the stability of the trailer. Just can't imagine a need to do anything else to the trailer or truck.
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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06-06-2014, 01:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Sometimes one does not have enough pin weight.
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06-06-2014, 01:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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My Opinion..For those of us who are high end users, long timers/full timers the OEM suspension systems are not adequate to withstand the constant stress delivered by our infrastructure. The Mor Ryde IS system although pricy transforms the Montana into a true full time capable rig. We literally shake these things apart with the constant stress applied by running high miles down the road.
Todays price of the Mor Ryde Is Systen installed at the Mor Ryde plant is 2500/3000 $$$. That is a lot of money but IMO will save the high end user $$$ down the road in problems that will not happen.
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06-06-2014, 09:35 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Blackduck
Posts: 315
M.O.C. #12753
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime
Sometimes one does not have enough pin weight.
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My thinking as well.
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06-06-2014, 09:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Kissimmee
Posts: 545
M.O.C. #14096
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Ours has the Mor/ryde LRE Suspension System. Is that what you are talking about? What is the Mor/ryde IS?
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06-06-2014, 09:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Kissimmee
Posts: 545
M.O.C. #14096
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Ours has the Mor/ryde LRE Suspension System. Is that what you are talking about? What is the Mor/ryde IS?
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06-06-2014, 10:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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IS means independent suspension.... Look it up on the Mor Ryde web site for a detailed explanation.
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06-06-2014, 12:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Goshen
Posts: 1,058
M.O.C. #2827
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That's why I like my TrailAir Equa-Flex equalizers and the TrailAir L05 pin box. The thing that would make the old Challenger ride nicer would be the TrailAir Tri-glide pin box. But, that will be on the next new 5er we get!
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06-06-2014, 01:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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We have pulled previous Montana with an all steel pen box and observed a rough ride. We then bought a Trail Air Triglide and later had it changed to the 3725 Montana (bolt pattern fit) along with the G614 tires, and have never had anything to break in the new trailer. We adjusted both the pen box and hitch so as to get a level trailer and parallel to truck bed rails. I believe the Moryde pen box is good, but notice the Trail Air Triglide is OEM on much heavier trailers.
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06-06-2014, 02:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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The Trail Airs and Moryde pin boxes will smooth out the ride for the truck and what you feel, but that will not smooth out the ride in the trailer. To smooth out the trailer ride you got to change the trailers suspension and tires....Other wise the egges will still get scrambled in the frig..
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06-06-2014, 03:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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We never get eggs scrambled in the rig, and think the Trail Air must be doing something back there as we can see it working constantly in the rear view mirror. However, we do have Egg Beaters (Southwestern Style) in the fridge and they are always scrambled. 
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06-06-2014, 05:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Maybe I exaggerated how bad we are bouncing. There was just some roads in California and Oklahoma, and only a few hundred miles where there were dips or the pavement was kind of washboard. On those roads I just didn't feel like the trailer was balanced out right. The new Montanas, possibly depending on what package you get, have the MOR/Ryde LRE 4100 Rubber Suspension System (heavy duty wet bolt kit with bronze bushings) plus MOR/Ryde king pin hitch. I have compared this system with the MOR/Ryde IS systems on their site and I really don't think there could be that much difference. My system allows 4" of travel. Traveling with 1/3 tank of water today up Rt. 101 in Oregon seemed to be okay but then again the road was good. At 40,000 miles on the Ford I may look into replacing the shocks though. I am sure they have taken a beating.
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