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07-29-2013, 12:53 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Afton
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LED question
I went and studied and looked online and bought the brightest LEDs I could find and installed them and presto, they put out as much light as a match. What am I doing wrong?
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07-29-2013, 01:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salisbury
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The ones that I bought from Michael here on the MOC are super white and brighter than the original ones. Well pleased.
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07-29-2013, 02:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
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Same here.
I did the entire trailer with them from Michael. I have had them about a year or longer and they are very good better than the 110V lights.
Phil P
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07-29-2013, 02:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
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X3 on buying LED's from Michael. Bright white light with low amp draw.
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07-29-2013, 02:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
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Knowing the Kelvin temperature (from yellowish through bluish) AND the brightness (lumens) of the light you like is key when you replace your old fashioned incandescent 12v bulbs.
Armed with this information you can purchase inexpensive LED's online, I've re-equipped my last two RV's from LED's I purchased on eBay at an extremely reasonable price.
I LOVE MY LED LIGHTS!!! I have them both inside and outside of our Monte.
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07-29-2013, 03:42 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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Totally converted our rig to LED using Michael and Kat's product. Only ever had one bad bulb and they took care of it immediately. Not only did we get the low draw of the LED's, but they are bright enough that we only use our side lights now and never use our pancake lights unless we're looking for a needle in the carpet. If we use the pancakes now we could operate in here. One thing I've learned about the forum is that my research isn't complete until I check with the folks here.
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07-29-2013, 03:48 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Afton
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I'm happy that everyone bought from Michael (not as happy as him) but I'm not buying any more until I find out if I'm doing something wrong. I bought from 3 different places to compare but they are all the same.
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07-29-2013, 04:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
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I don't know how you could do anything wrong, you plug them in and go. The only other reason I can think of for dim lights is low voltage
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07-29-2013, 06:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
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Not to insult your abilities, but you did order 12 volt LED's and not 115 V ????
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07-29-2013, 07:22 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Afton
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Don't worry I'm to dumb to understand an insult! Yes I ordered 12v. Thanks
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07-29-2013, 09:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
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Replaced all my bulbs and fixtures to LED ,those old white dome lamps look like the same one's they used in the 70's now my lights are bright White and modern looking and I do not have to deal with HOT bulbs anymore and I have never got a Dim one yet
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07-29-2013, 10:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Victor
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Ken, I would contact Mike and at least talk with him. He knows a lot more than I do about these lights. How many lumen and bright white vs. cool blue etc. Are the regular bulbs bright like they should be? There definitely has to be something wrong because our led's are so bright it is unbelievable. Good luck and keep us posted what you find.
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07-29-2013, 11:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
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Hello Kenny
I carry a couple of spares.
I am in Lincoln Nebraska and will be going east about the 7th of August.
If you happen to get close we can plug one of Michaels in your trailer and see what happens.
Phil P
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07-29-2013, 02:06 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Afton
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Thanks Phil I think we will just barely miss each other! As it stands now I will be leaving Booneville Mo on the 9th, going to Chillicothe Mo) and then over to I 29 to Neb. City then west.
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07-30-2013, 01:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
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Hi
There is a good possibility we will be going by Boonville on the 8
We normally travel 350 to 400 miles a day. If there is a park nearby we could stop early.
Phil P
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07-30-2013, 02:21 AM
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Montana Fan
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Phil, check your PM.
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08-05-2013, 10:59 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Somewhere
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Why not try one bulb from Michael and see what happens.
There are so many mfgrs. claiming this and claiming that if you aren't carefull you can get stung.
I haven't done the trailer yet but did the boat this last year and there is a huge difference. Brighter and all 6 led use less than one of the old bulbs. It matters to us big time as we live and die, sort of, on batteries. No plug ins and no generator.
If the old incandescent bulbs worked it means the wiring is ok. The bulbs were getting voltage and current to operate. If that is the case then I'd say the LEDs you got are junk.
There are several types of LED setups and the ones you don't want are those that simply use a voltage drop resister. LEDs typically only need ~1.5v to operate. They do vary a bit. The rest of the voltage is dropped by the resister which is a power waste and the led will lose brilliance as the battery voltage drops. If the builder doesn't get the resister value right then the led will not work properly.
The good ones have a bit of circuitry and are called PWM type or some such. They use a chip and some other bits to control the effective voltage to the led, keeping it constant to the led even while the battery voltage drops. No brilliance loss unless of course you really let the batteries die.
Try one from a known source and go from there. There are good leds out there.
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08-07-2013, 05:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
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Looking to replace DC Bulbs (1076) over Island will LED's be brighter? If so what is the numbers
Not necessary looking foe energy savings but Brighter Light,
an I purchase from Michael and Kat
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08-07-2013, 11:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,121
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I guarantee if you buy those bulbs from Michael & Kat they will be brighter. If you go to their website you will fine the replacements for the 1076
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08-07-2013, 11:15 AM
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Site Team
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Location: Wilsey
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They also won't interfere with your TV and electronics.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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