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12-19-2010, 10:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land O Lakes
Posts: 2,783
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Ozz, in terms of leveling, I was wondering what the "travel" distance is for each of the additional "feet" added (beyond the landing gear)? Most modern camp ground sites are pretty close to level, but some of the older places have some sites (our experience) that would challenge a mountain goat! With these sites, the need for some significant "travel" on the added jacks would be obvious. For example, one place we stayed at in Virginia was so off level that we had two feet of blocking under one side of the trailer, and yes, it took a lot of going back and forth before our doors operated properly. So the issue is in order to have that kind of "travel" it would seem the added jacks might ride pretty low on the fifth wheel trailer. What do you think, Ozz? Michael
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12-19-2010, 10:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
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You got me there, but I would pass on a two feet site, I would worry that after a few Coronas, I would tumble down the hill.
I think there would be a limit on any system, if there is enough travel to lift the tires, I would be happy with it, that is enough for this old country boy.
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12-19-2010, 10:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Winthrop Harbor
Posts: 1,831
M.O.C. #8160
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We also have the Lippert system. At the time and all things considered equal, we were looking at $2400 vs $5000. I'm sure that the Big Foot people love theirs as do the Lippert people. With that said, we went with the auto level system because it is just getting too much of a hassel to unhook and set up for a one or two night stay. We found ourselves staying hooked so we would not have to go through the routine of putting down boards, leveling and still have to deal with bouncing a wiggle even though we had the JT system.
With the level up we can unhook and stabilize within minutes. We are no longer captive to our Monty. We have been through the course of setting up and tearing down tents, pop ups, class C, travel trailer, and two 5vers. This was money well spent.
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12-19-2010, 10:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land O Lakes
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M.O.C. #10246
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Hope no one thinks I was "bashing" any of the auto level systems...the concept of auto leveling strikes me as "the way to go," but I was wondering about its ability to level in really unlevel terrain.
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12-19-2010, 11:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,659
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I'll add a quick note. I had my rear jacks positioned a bolt hole higher as I didn't want them extending below the steps when retracted. As many know, the 2955s are known to drag the steps in a big dip or trying to get into a spot that has quite an incline (I know, bent mine several times, last time had to remove the steps to be able to hammer them back into shape. So I didn't want to take the chance of hurting the rear jacks. As a result I have alittle less lift, but still more than enough to lift the rear wheels several inches off the ground when on fairly level ground. Carrying a few 12x12 pieces of wood is a lot less than previously needed.
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12-19-2010, 11:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
Posts: 6,382
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I can guaranty that there are sites that require more travel than any system has. Both Big Foot and LevelUP have travel limitations requiring additional lift to be able to level. We found a site in Kentucky that even though it was a paved surface, the surface was so slanted it required two 2X12 blocks to level up. Every rig there had to use blocks whether fifth wheel or motor home.
The vertical travel information is usually posted on the specs in the advertising brochures. Compare.
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12-19-2010, 01:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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[quote]Originally posted by CamillaMichael
Hope no one thinks I was "bashing" any of the auto level systems...the concept of auto leveling strikes me as "the way to go," but I was wondering about its ability to level in really unlevel terrain.
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In really unlevel spots you may have to tweak it a bit by raising one side or the other using both the front and back levelers at the same time on the low side.
Orv
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12-19-2010, 05:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Winthrop Harbor
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It's too cold to go out and look at my Lippert info. but I'm pretty sure it states that the ground needs to be fairly level in order for the system to work properly. In other words don't throw away all of your lumber. Even with the extra large feet I would hesitate to drop them in a soft environment w/o putting something solid underneath.
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