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Old 10-09-2018, 05:22 PM   #41
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I went with the Anderson Hitch because I already had the factory goose-neck ball mount. But to get the best ride add a Morryde pin box. I had the Trailair and that didnt eliminate the chucking.

I thought I heard you can't use the Morryde pin box with the Anderson. You have to use their lockout kit. I know that's the case for the Rota-Flex
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:29 AM   #42
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I am very new to the 5th wheel world and I wound up getting the Anderson hitch. I have a 2017 Chevy Silverado 2500HD diesel with the standard 6'8" bed and I can do a full 90 degree angle without even coming close to the cab with the nose of my 5er. It's a 2018 High Country 321MK that weights about 11,100 lb empty and the pin weight is around 2300 lbs. I have no trouble towing with my 3/4 ton truck. Very stable and comfortable.
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Old 10-10-2018, 06:46 AM   #43
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I thought I heard you can't use the Morryde pin box with the Anderson. You have to use their lockout kit. I know that's the case for the Rota-Flex
I believe you need the lockout kit with the airbag pin box.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:03 AM   #44
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Yes you need a lockout kit if you have the Rota-Flex pin box and use an Anderson Hitch.
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Old 10-14-2018, 08:35 AM   #45
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Its a good thing we have all these big heavy duty high horsepower pickups now to haul these campers, its a wonder how back in the day we had lighter duty trucks, weaker frames with low horsepower power like under 180hp and 3 speed transmissions and smaller rear ends and axles, using air shocks not the fancy air bags and still hauled those big heavy trls all over the country and nobody ever worried about the CGWVR. How did we ever get bye huh imagine that
Trailers have gotten larger and heavier... trucks have too. but that does no negate physics and Mfr specs or recommendations or other applicable rules.

Accident stats are better reported these days. Back in the day (as you put it) this was not the case. Bottom line is back in the day if you exceeded the specs and did not have any issues, just like today.... you were lucky, but not safe.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:48 AM   #46
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you were lucky, but not safe.[/QUOTE]

Back in my day, we didn’t need stupid seat belts or the air bags. We took our pinishment like men.
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Old 10-14-2018, 10:16 AM   #47
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Back in my day, we didn’t need stupid seat belts or the air bags. We took our pinishment like men.[/QUOTE]

I rest my case.
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Old 10-14-2018, 10:18 AM   #48
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:21 AM   #49
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Just looking at your set up with a 2500 you need to consider the weight. Look into Anderson and some of the lighter hitches. I love my BW, but it is heavy. And one other thing to look into is your insurance for the truck and trailer. Read the fine print and be sure that there is not a clause about towing over weight. I have Geico and it is in both polices. If I tow the Montana with a truck that is too small they don't pay, if I haul something to heavy with the truck they don't pay. No Disrespect meant by any means.......Just do not want to see anyone run the risk too lose what they have worked so hard to get, over the fine print......God Bless and Safe Travels.....
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Old 10-18-2018, 05:10 PM   #50
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I have 2016 F-350 6-1/2’ box using the B&W hitch and fifth wheel companion non slider, pulling a 2013 3400RL. The pin box will hit the bed rails before the front cap reaches the rear window. Been in some tight places without any problems.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:21 PM   #51
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I have Allstate. I ask my agent if I towed an overweight camper was I covered? She called Allstate and ask, yes you are covered. If you speed, run a stop sign, drive drunk you are covered. They can’t pick and choose when to cover you or they would never cover anything.
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I have Allstate. I ask my agent if I towed an overweight camper was I covered? She called Allstate and ask, yes you are covered. If you speed, run a stop sign, drive drunk you are covered. They can’t pick and choose when to cover you or they would never cover anything.
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Geico told me it would be considered Negligence on my part, and would not cover my personal loss. If another person was involved they would cover my Liability in that case. They have no choice there. But they could turn around and sue me if it was proven the accident was directly caused by the failing to abide by the guide lines set forth by the truck/trailer manufacturing company. It is a very slippery slope. The advice I got from my Son who is a Lawyer and my personal Lawyer is ditch the 2500 and get a 3500 and avoid any risk of litigation if something was to happen. This is just what I was advised of, and it was also stated all it takes is a civil Lawyer to get involved if they were injuries legitimate or not. It is no different than if it was a CDL truck, if they can prove the accident was caused by the fact you were overweight. Been in Heavy Highway Construction too long......Been there and done that......

Just my experience.....I hate Insurance Companies and Lawyers.....
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:59 PM   #53
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I pull with the Ford hitch in a short bed F250, I can back up at very sharp angles without getting close to the truck cab. As for Ford there is no difference between drivetrains in the F250 and F350 on SRW trucks the same rear axle is used and there is one leaf spring difference. I can't speak to GM products, but there are many good hitches on the market. I would visit a shop that installs hitches and see what the most popular hitches they install and go from there. Just make sure it is rated for the loaded trailer weight. As far as what your truck will pull/not pull safely use common sense. You will find on this forum nothing short of a Kenworth or Peterbilt is safe to pull a "modern" fiver. I have pulled thousands of miles with a 3/4 ton with zero issues. I use common sense and am not grossly overweight, sure extremes will get you in trouble. Remember the highways and bridge abutments you will travel are rough any added cushioning will help or add airbags, they helped my ride immensely. Good Luck!
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Just my experience.....I hate Insurance Companies and Lawyers.....[/QUOTE]

Except for your son.
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Just my experience.....I hate Insurance Companies and Lawyers.....
Except for your son.
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I do Love My Son.......But he has his days when he is placed on the "DO NOT CALL ME" list......LOL.......
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Geico told me it would be considered Negligence on my part, and would not cover my personal loss. If another person was involved they would cover my Liability in that case. They have no choice there. But they could turn around and sue me if it was proven the accident was directly caused by the failing to abide by the guide lines set forth by the truck/trailer manufacturing company. It is a very slippery slope. The advice I got from my Son who is a Lawyer and my personal Lawyer is ditch the 2500 and get a 3500 and avoid any risk of litigation if something was to happen. This is just what I was advised of, and it was also stated all it takes is a civil Lawyer to get involved if they were injuries legitimate or not. It is no different than if it was a CDL truck, if they can prove the accident was caused by the fact you were overweight. Been in Heavy Highway Construction too long......Been there and done that......

Just my experience.....I hate Insurance Companies and Lawyers.....
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Bagger and Nighthawk got it right, i have a 2018 305RL that grosses at 14000lbs. using a 2014 GMC 2500 (gas) with airbags and all i do is worry and stress over how much we are putting in the camper and truck because i know i got the wrong truck for the job. I,m constantly checking tire temps and pressures. you can level out the truck and trailer with the airbags but the weight transfer on the axles of the truck are not desirable. sure it looks good and brings the headlights down but if you talk to any engineer they will tell you that your weight distribution is incorrect. That being said I ordered a new 3500 duramax and should now be able to enjoy the trip. I have a Hensley BD3 hitch with air ride i will continue to use on the new truck as for my money i think is it one of the best on the market, smooth-reduced chucking well built.
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If you want the features of an Air Ride Hitch, but don't want the hassle of adding Air, look into the Comfort Ride Hitch. Put one in my TV a couple of years ago and love it.
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If you're looking for a light weight hitch, Pullrites new 30K non-slider only weights 56#.
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Bagger and Nighthawk got it right, i have a 2018 305RL that grosses at 14000lbs. using a 2014 GMC 2500 (gas) with airbags and all i do is worry and stress over how much we are putting in the camper and truck because i know i got the wrong truck for the job. I,m constantly checking tire temps and pressures. you can level out the truck and trailer with the airbags but the weight transfer on the axles of the truck are not desirable. sure it looks good and brings the headlights down but if you talk to any engineer they will tell you that your weight distribution is incorrect. That being said I ordered a new 3500 duramax and should now be able to enjoy the trip. I have a Hensley BD3 hitch with air ride i will continue to use on the new truck as for my money i think is it one of the best on the market, smooth-reduced chucking well built.
It will make you much more at ease. For years people have pulled big 5th wheels with 3/4 ton trucks and still do. From an Engineering stand point it does not make it right to over load. I wish I could have gotten pictures of the worst RV accident I have ever seen on my last trip. 3/4 ton pulling a Raptor tri axle, bumper dragging the ground. But he blew past me at 75 or 80, and about an hour up the road his truck and trailer was in the ditch totaled. Did not see it happen but by the looks of the skid marks he tried to slow down rapidly, and due to the weight not being spread on the axles right the trailer pushed him around. And from there all bets are off.

God Bless and Safe Travels.......
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