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03-01-2019, 04:49 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Lippert slide out creeping out 2” on a Montana
I have a 2017 Montana that one hydraulic slide out will creep out 2” in the winter. I also have a passenger side rear jack that will not fully retract in auto retract.
Lippert said I have a hydraulic cylendar that is leaking down slowing the slide out to slip out and the rear jack is an issue with one of the jacks leaking in bypass telling the system is has reached max pressure which his how it knows the jacks are retracted. So I have a bypass leak which can be one of the leveling jacks, 6-8 jacks and any cylinder on the slide outs that are internal to the coach. Seems hard to diagnose and expensive. Anyone have this issue and any ideas?
Thanks John
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03-02-2019, 03:57 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kamiah
Posts: 332
M.O.C. #14438
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Call Keystone. They have a method of testing to tell if it is the slide cylinder or relief valve. Mine turned out to be a slide cylinder. I was in Butte Mt. 3 weeks getting it fixed. Pain in the a**, but keystone did fix it.
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Ron&Sue
2017 Montana 3720RL Legacy
14' Ram 3500 DRW
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03-02-2019, 04:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #20753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fatcatzzz
Call Keystone. They have a method of testing to tell if it is the slide cylinder or relief valve. Mine turned out to be a slide cylinder. I was in Butte Mt. 3 weeks getting it fixed. Pain in the a**, but keystone did fix it.
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I was lucky. Our slide ram was lealing and found it at the rally. Mark Krol had Lippert come out and fix it in a day.
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03-06-2019, 10:58 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sun City
Posts: 408
M.O.C. #23256
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I've had good results chatting with Lippert tech support about problems with our slide-outs.
https://www.lci1.com/support/
then click on the chat window that pops up in the lower right corner.
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Dave in AZ
2008 Montana 3400RL
2008 Dodge Ram 3500 Diesel Dually
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03-06-2019, 11:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Paola
Posts: 5,739
M.O.C. #4961
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John, you are right you have a cylinder leaking on the inside seals.
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Paola, Kansas
Montana 3735MK Legacy Edition
1200 watts of Solar
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03-06-2019, 12:38 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Lippert slide out leak
Thank you for your response. Do you know if the center room slideout cylinder is under the coach or in the slideout?
Wondering how I can access it.
Thanks
John
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03-06-2019, 01:33 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sun City
Posts: 408
M.O.C. #23256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jstadler
Thank you for your response. Do you know if the center room slideout cylinder is under the coach or in the slideout?
Wondering how I can access it.
Thanks
John
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If it's like our 3400RL, it's under the coach. You have to drop the coroplast to access it.
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Dave in AZ
2008 Montana 3400RL
2008 Dodge Ram 3500 Diesel Dually
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03-06-2019, 02:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Slide out ram location
Thanks bummer sound like hard work they nail the underside in not sure how you pull the nails out.
John
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03-06-2019, 03:07 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sun City
Posts: 408
M.O.C. #23256
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Yes. On the newer units they nailed it up. On our older one, they used #14 x 1.5" self tapping screws.
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/f...xoC1wcQAvD_BwE
I think most used a nail puller to remove them and then reinstalled the coroplast with the screws. When putting the screws back in, a corded bit driver works best to have more torque to get them in.
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Dave in AZ
2008 Montana 3400RL
2008 Dodge Ram 3500 Diesel Dually
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03-06-2019, 03:38 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Kamiah
Posts: 332
M.O.C. #14438
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Pull them out with a pry bar. Put it back with self taping screws and fender washers.
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Ron&Sue
2017 Montana 3720RL Legacy
14' Ram 3500 DRW
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03-06-2019, 05:24 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Lippert access
Thank you so much for the advice I thought that might be the case. I guess they have to chose fast ways to attach the shield.
Thank you everyone,
John Stadler
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03-08-2019, 11:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 839
M.O.C. #20949
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You may or may not have both the leveler and slide hyd actuator leaking internally... there is a simple procedure to test the levelers out that won’t require dropping the colorplast...
https://www.lci1.com/images/support/lipsheet/0076.pdf
Also before doing the above tests I would reccomend you due a bleed on the system... it’s very simple to do and you may have some air in the system...
Also by doing the bleed test first you will exercise the seals as well as open and close the actuator solenoid valves mounted on the manifold. A tad of garbage could have gotten into the system causing the slide out solenoid valve to slightly stick...
https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...Pump_Units.pdf
To me the bleed is worth a try before doing anything else..
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03-08-2019, 05:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Lipper Bleed
HI how do you bleed the system I was told it's self bleeding.
Thank you everyone you are great and I hope to contribute too some day.
John
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03-08-2019, 06:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 839
M.O.C. #20949
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It is self bleeding....per say... follow this link and run slides and leveling system as PDF outlines....have someone observe the hyd reservoir while doing this bleed procedure... if bubbles are seen in the fluid then you had air in the system.....
https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/...Pump_Units.pdf
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03-09-2019, 08:47 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Apple Valley
Posts: 134
M.O.C. #19913
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Lippert Bleeding
Thank you very much! I really appreciate the help.
John
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