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09-18-2014, 07:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Outside LED light strip potential problem
I had purchased the LED light strips for installation beneath our awning quite a while ago and have been hesitant about physically installing them onto the paint of the rig. With that said, I think I am going to attempt to fashion a removable strip of the lights that will allow for storage away from the rig. One thing that I have noticed in my (after the fact) research is that the recommended storage temperature for these lights has a low end of 3 degrees Celsius! That equates to about 15 degrees in West Virginia temperatures (Fahrenheit). That is a problem since the rig sits in mini-storage for the winter and the temperatures will go well below that. Has anyone who installed the lights had them in sub-zero temperatures with bad results, good results? I am leaning towards a way to mount the strips on a double piece of stop moulding (two 8 foot sections hinged together so it can be folded for storage). I will cut the strip at the bend point and install a strip connector between them to allow slack for the moulding to fold with the strips attached. Still contemplating the exact mount but am leaning to either suction cups or a way to hang it from the awning frame on the rig wall. Will have to fashion a waterproof connector at the porch light but that should be easily doable. Am I over-thinking this or is my caution warranted based on the low temperatures they will be exposed to?
Bingo
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09-18-2014, 08:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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I don't have a positive or negative opinion on sticking them on a full body paint rig, but it's (3M)the same tape the big 3 stick mouldings on our cars which also have full body paint . For $20 ... if they do or don't make it thru a winter, it's no financial crisis. There are sure alot of them factory installed on rigs nowdays ... if that says anything.
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09-18-2014, 08:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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It is not my concern that the same tape is used on cars as on the rigs. If the $20 string of lights fail, how easy is it to then get them off the rig if they are held on by the same 3M tape that holds auto emblems for years? If they fail repeatedly (they are "Made in China" after all), the replacement could be a major annual PITA! I wish my full-body paint was up to the standards of the big 3 but, for some reason, I doubt it!
Bingo
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09-18-2014, 09:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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Heck, if they do fail in winter ... put another string on 1" down each spring. That way you'll know how long you've had the rig ... kinda like counting tree rings to determine the age.
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09-18-2014, 09:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: silver creek
Posts: 1,507
M.O.C. #7770
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for the temperature issues, we live in western NY,near Buffalo, so it is cold. there were some nights at or below 0. Left them on trailer and did not have any issues with them this year. But you never know.
On the install options, we mounted ours on the awning tube. Just under the awning, we rolled up the awning, sat all winter and awning looks fine,no distortion on material. I was a little concerned about that. How about this idea as an option. Put a full strip of 3M Velcro on tube or wall of trailer,velcro back of lights, and just remove every time,then you can store in winter. If my lights fail,I am going to do this on the tube so I can remove when stored.
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09-18-2014, 09:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Roswell
Posts: 627
M.O.C. #12028
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3* C is 37* F
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09-18-2014, 09:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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M.O.C. #6846
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by racerjoe
for the temperature issues, we live in western NY,near Buffalo, so it is cold. there were some nights at or below 0. Left them on trailer and did not have any issues with them this year. But you never know.
On the install options, we mounted ours on the awning tube. Just under the awning, we rolled up the awning, sat all winter and awning looks fine,no distortion on material. I was a little concerned about that. How about this idea as an option. Put a full strip of 3M Velcro on tube or wall of trailer,velcro back of lights, and just remove every time,then you can store in winter. If my lights fail,I am going to do this on the tube so I can remove when stored.
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I like that idea!! That is way better than the tree ring counting deal!!
grayghost, I have no idea where I got the 15 degrees from! WV math I guess!!
Bingo
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09-18-2014, 09:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Roswell
Posts: 627
M.O.C. #12028
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Hey, look at this way, layers of LED strips, way better then having to cut the Monty in half to count rings. Our new one has factory install LED's under the awning, I will watch this winter. I do know, I am thinking about a dimmer for them, they are BRIGHT.
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09-18-2014, 09:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Englewood
Posts: 3,095
M.O.C. #164
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I had posted about a month ago.my lights failed after about a month.when I removed them they peeled off the 3M tape but could not reuse the tape.So i had to remove the tape from the trailer not an easy job about a half hour job for a 16 ft section no damage to the fiberglass keep in mind they were only on for 5 weeks I am thinking if on longer the tape removal would have been more difficult. I am going to mount the new set on the awning tube in the spring.one more shot if they only last 5 weeks I am going back to rope lights.when they were working they were great!
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