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08-10-2006, 02:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Warning concerning 3400RL
Two things;
First, pull the Two screws on the triangular shaped cover at the drivers side rear of the unit, it's carpeted, and under there is the backside of the water fill. My vent hose was kinked shut, I imagine all are. They leave slack when connecting both hoses, vent and fill, then push them in and secure the mounting flange, this kinks the hose. You have to cut the hose, cut a 2" or so section, then re-join with a barbed fitting and 2 small hose clamps. You need that working vent.
Second, secure the cords with wire ties on the slide outs at the outside ends, the black rubber coated wire will get caught around the protruding bolt and cause strain and possibly pull it in two.
Easy quick fixes that will pay off in the long run.
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 1500 watt inverter
Honda 2000 Generator, 2nd one and twinning kit coming
Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish
LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge
LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets
On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat
Hadley Air Horns
Truck inverter with 110 volts for laptop
Color Backup Camera
Awning lock
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08-10-2006, 03:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Good Advise Ozz.I had already secured the cords and other things under all the slides the first week we had this thing in the driveway.Preventative measures for the cost of a few tie wraps. On the kinked hose..First one of the two long screws holding the triangular cover on(the top one) was a short screw not a long screw so it was screwed into nothing, but not to worry the long screw was laying on the floor under the cover so at least we have the screw, another little thing.The small hose would have been kinked had it been connected to anything but it was hanging loose, another little thing. Easy fix...Keep me posted on any other.."little things" you find.
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-10-2006, 11:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Drexel Hill
Posts: 897
M.O.C. #627
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Rich and helen
i see you guys are from Ohio.We will be going to see my wifes family who live in Akron.Do you know of any local camp grounds in that area.would like to have a full hook up site.Thanks for your help.
John
2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500 SLT Quad Cab 4x4-auto-48re
2001(bought new in March of 2004) montana 3280RL triple slide
Prodigy brake controller
color back up camera(from rvcams.com)
reese 16K slider
tire pressure monitoring system
line-x spray in bed liner
roll&lock bed cover
Yamaha generator with boost control
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08-10-2006, 11:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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John...I will get back to you on the Campground..see the PM i sent you. That area is not very far from us...
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-10-2006, 04:44 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Slidell
Posts: 47
M.O.C. #6048
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Also check water lines running to the side of the heater. Notch cut out for line had foil tape on it, but there was still a very sharp edge that line was sitting on. Not easy to get to. Also heavy line from pump was crimping a water line. I put rubber grommets around water lines going through rough cut holes. pipe insulation that you use in the winter works great in some areas. You guys have me checking everything. The other night my husband asked me what was I doing. Exploring I said.
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08-11-2006, 05:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Royse City
Posts: 520
M.O.C. #2959
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Ozz,
I have an 06 3400 but may have the same problem. This triangular part, is it inside the coach and under the desk?
Rick & Wanda
2003 2500HD Crew Cab
Duramax with Allison Trans.
Firestone Airbags
Glide-Ride Pinbox - It's Great!
2006 3400RL - We Love The Trailer!
Montana Customer Service?
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08-12-2006, 01:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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rickfox..It is IN the coach, drivers side ..rear corner..behind the recliner.2 screws 1 top left 1 bottom right..long screws (maybe)..it just pulls loose after screws are removed..
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-12-2006, 02:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Bobcat,
Good call. Those two small Brown wires should be wire tied up as well, they are the thermostat heat wires, (I am pretty sure) Glad you checked.
rickfox, richfaa is correct, the one under the desk is where I brought my Two cables up from my In Motion Satellite dome to the entertainment area.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 1500 watt inverter
Honda 2000 Generator, 2nd one and twinning kit coming
Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish
LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge
LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets
On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat
Hadley Air Horns
Truck inverter with 110 volts for laptop
Color Backup Camera
Awning lock
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08-12-2006, 07:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brownsburg
Posts: 1,186
M.O.C. #5634
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Rich - Ozz, man I don't know but my unit must have been built at another location than you guys. I bought mine right off the lot from the dealer the same week it arrived from the factory and I don't seem to be having all these problems you guys are. I pulled the box at the back over the fresh water fill and my hose is not crimped at all. I checked the wiring under unit and don't see need for extra wire ties. Oh well, maybe mine was built by the day shift and yours was built by the night shift. Ha.
Phill & Gladys
Sometimes me sits and thinks - sometimes me just sits.
06 GMC 2500HD Duramax 4x4
06 Montana 3400RL
Bichon - CEO
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08-12-2006, 08:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Indy,
Good deal, I'm glad they are all not like that, you may be closer to the truth than you know about the shift workers.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 1500 watt inverter
Honda 2000 Generator, 2nd one and twinning kit coming
Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish
LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge
LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets
On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat
Hadley Air Horns
Truck inverter with 110 volts for laptop
Color Backup Camera
Awning lock
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08-12-2006, 09:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Tipton
Posts: 3,646
M.O.C. #191
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oops, guys, as far as we know, NO night shift at the plants, ONE shift per day, start around 4 AM, done by 2 PM.
note the disclaimer: as far as we know.
Carol
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08-12-2006, 10:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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My two brown wires were OK. Maybe we are just to picky but I see hanging wires as a probable trouble down the road and tie wraps are cheap. Rodger on the night shift..there is none. The problem is inadequately trained assembly line workers, assembly line moving to fast for the experience and training level of the workers and poor quality control.(and that is at all the brands factories) If going to the fall rally don't miss the factory tour and I suggest the Sprinter tour during the week as there you can see the craftsmen at work.
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-12-2006, 10:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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No night shifts is what we were told. 4 to noon. Then they go home and work the farm.
You all have me convinced to remove every cover on the rig and investigate what's inside, underneat, on top, etc.
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
Our RV Travels (now Firefox-compatible)
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08-12-2006, 11:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Yes they got me going also..It is a throat clutcher.
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-12-2006, 11:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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When I am on the road, I will feel that I have done everything possible to insure no 'Ghost' type problems. it's much, much easier to double check everything when the Monte is sitting in my side yard. No fun working on them in a rest stop-I've been there.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, 2nd one and twinning kit coming
Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish
LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge
LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets
On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat
Hadley Air Horns
Truck inverter with 110 volts for laptop
Color Backup Camera
Awning lock
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08-12-2006, 04:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,568
M.O.C. #4890
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Ozz, thanks for the heads up on the freshwater vent. I will check mine tomorrow. I am pleased with the overall quality of my 06 Montana and I did complete a 44 day trip with absolutely no issues so I can't complain but every time you look behind the nice finish, this is what you see.
This was the behind the shallow cabinet that I installed my fireplace.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...tures10080.jpg
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-12-2006, 04:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Wrenchtraveller,
Doesn't that drive you crazy? even hidden, you would think they would blow it out with an air hose, they surely have on the assembly line. I found Two empty caulking tubes, a hank of wires and a 4# ball of plastic under the Monte, that fell on me as I removed the Black bottom covers.
Ozz
'07 3400RL 2nd RTU
2 Golf Cart batteries 3,000 watt inverter, automatic transfer switch
Honda 2000 Generator, 2nd one and twinning kit coming
Maytag's with 220 Dryer
Stationary domed Sat. dish
LCD 12 Volt Amp gauge
LCD Tank Monitor
3 added 120 volt outlets
On Board Air; 12 Volt Viair 450C compressor
2006 Ford PSD 4x4 Off Road Lariat
Hadley Air Horns
Truck inverter with 110 volts for laptop
Color Backup Camera
Awning lock
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08-12-2006, 07:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 1,568
M.O.C. #4890
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It does bother me that clean up is not part of their work ethic. As an apprentice, I was taught that clean up was a very important part of the job and as a tradesman I still clean up after every job.
Maybe Old World craftmen think it is ok to sweep the dust under the carpet.
Don & Donna
Vancouver Island
2005 Ford F350 V10 Lariat CC 4x4 LB SRW 11200 GVWR
2006 Montana 2955RL
click on the little pic to see a big pic
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08-12-2006, 07:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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I think some people are more prone to being neat as others. One of my biggest complaints about the crew I supervised in IT was the lack of leaving neat installations (wires wrapped, etc.).
Happy trails...............................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL 2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed
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08-30-2006, 09:33 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Palm Bay
Posts: 423
M.O.C. #4308
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I don't even know if my 3400RL is on the assembly line yet and here I am making a list of things to tear into when I get the Monty, you guys are awesome.
Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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