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08-14-2006, 08:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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Awning gap over door on 3400
How come there is a gap over the entry door for the 3400 (and maybe others) between the main awning and the LR slide awning. This is a very wet spot during wet weather, and it seems to be an engineering oversight. Why would engineers leave the main entrance unprotected like this???
Someone has to have thought of a fix for covering this gap with all the massive brainpower on this forum... Any help??? I really don't think I should have to use an umbrella to go in and out of the door of a $50K+ RV...
Dave and Cheryl Sprik
Bellaire, MI
2002 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Ext Cab, LB, SLE (w/ full power/elect options)
Reese 16K Hitch, Draw Tite Brake Controller (Activator II)
Full undercoating, Rhino Spray-In Liner
2007 3400RL
Venetian Gold Interior
2nd A/C, Fireplace, Dual Pane Windows, Central Vac
WE'RE HOME!
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08-14-2006, 08:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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The awning hardware can't really go much farther towards the slide, can it? It's the same with our 3295RK and it has not been a problem. With awning extended on rainy days we just open the door wider and angle our exit to the left. Really not a problem for us, so far.
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
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08-14-2006, 10:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Fairbanks
Posts: 301
M.O.C. #1217
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I have often wondered the same thing. With the afternoon rain here in AL, we have that wet spot almost every day. I too will be watching for ideas, as I have had none.
Kim - Dog Mom to the Golden Retriever girls - Copper and Penny. Full-timing since September 1, 2004 with hubby Steve (Gyro) in a 2005 Model 3475 with a Ford F350 duelly truck. Life is good!
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08-14-2006, 10:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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I have the solution..do not go out of the camper when it is raining..I will pass that fix on to Keystone. 
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box
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08-14-2006, 12:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by richfaa
I have the solution..do not go out of the camper when it is raining..I will pass that fix on to Keystone.
Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.
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I'll copy that down and file it for future reference... 
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08-14-2006, 02:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fallon
Posts: 6,064
M.O.C. #1989
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Dave,
We've also gotten use to this. Remember you are not in a stick house. There are a few give and takes. I'm just thankful the awning covers part of the door so there is a dry area to exit.
Happy trails......................
Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California 2005 3400RL  2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed  |
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08-14-2006, 03:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texico
Posts: 1,917
M.O.C. #6150
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When it rains around here people stand out in it hoping it will swell the cracks in their skin shut.
Lonnie W. Bussey
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08-17-2006, 01:43 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dumas
Posts: 104
M.O.C. #4480
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I can relate to that!
Quote:
quote:Originally posted by LonnieB
When it rains around here people stand out in it hoping it will swell the cracks in their skin shut.
Lonnie W. Bussey
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2006 Montana 3670RL pulled with 2003 Ford F350 Duelly 7.3 turbo diesel
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08-17-2006, 02:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ronan
Posts: 513
M.O.C. #5756
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haven't looked at this one yet Dave but am thinking just maybe a over size slide awning might help a bit but not sure yet I need to look at it with the awning extended I'll give it a good look this weekend
tim ford
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08-17-2006, 05:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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My thought process on this equates the value of this object to an obvious engineering slip up. Maybe if I was owned a $3K-$5K camper, I wouldn't complain. I just think a little more attention should have been paid to affording a cover for the entry/exit of a ~$55K 5th wheel camper that many FT/long time in.
Maybe I'm not expressing myself well enough... when you have a 39 ft "camper" with dual pane windows, fireplace, central vac, 2 A/Cs, 4 slides, king bed, surround sound entertainment center, etc... and then no one can figure out how to get an awning to cover the entrance on a rainy day... my mind puts up a big question mark, I guess...
I know this would bother many others. But I just can't justify having to throw my door wide open and try to squeeze out the extreme left side and jump to keep from getting wet. I do have to go out sometimes when it's raining. I'd probably really be upset if I had been in Washington/Oregon this spring during those record rains, with this awning set up.
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08-17-2006, 06:07 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Driftwood
Posts: 1,376
M.O.C. #5446
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Dave,
Right now you won't get much sympathy from people in the Southwest as we are worried about our wells going dry. I am hearing about lots of neighbors wells that have been wonderful for 60 years now pulling up nothng. So when you get replies to your getting a wet problem from some, me included, please forgive us that are in a severe drought.
There has been a post from a Montana owner about a blue tarp fix at some point. They did some type of transfer from the LR slide to the awning so it ran from the slide to the awning. So far in our limited experience we have only had wind that forced us to put the awning down. I would be worried about leaving it up at night with a storm coming, that might give us rain.... Hallelujah, so I wouldn't leave it unattended. The more I learn about my awning..... the more I think I shouldn't have bought the little lights to hang from it. The 3400 RL awning takes more time to take down than our New Vision.
Colleen
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08-17-2006, 06:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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I missed the blue tarp fix. I lived in SW Kansas for a few years, so I am familiar with the Ogallala Aquifer dynamics and the serious problems that were occurring even without drought conditions. If we could trade weather in the NW US in the spring for the SW US in the summer, we'd sure have a lot more green vegetation on the ground.
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08-17-2006, 06:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Texico
Posts: 1,917
M.O.C. #6150
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Ever since I made the wise crack about the dry skin, it's been raining here. 4" as of tonight. In all sincereity though I agree with you. When you spend that much you have the right to expect to stay dry going in and out.
Lonnie
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08-17-2006, 07:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Down the Road
Posts: 5,627
M.O.C. #889
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Dave,
The reason your main awning does not go closer to the living room slide and cover the door is, the entry handle on the coach. It is to the left of the awning arm. If you put the awning arm on the left side of the entry handle, it would not allow the living room slide to close all the way. As many have said, there are trade offs when it comes to rv living.
2004 Chevy Silverado LT 2500HD CrewCab Duramax
2004 Montana 3400RL
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08-18-2006, 12:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Conover
Posts: 995
M.O.C. #1832
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They make door awnings, check them out. http://www.rvtoystore.com/awnings.html, Check them out in RV and window awnings. One picture shows one on motor coach over the entry door. Not sure will work with your slide or not.
Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
http://www.picturetrail.com/broome101
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08-18-2006, 02:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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Dave, I believe I approached this lifestyle with that outlook. There definitely are some trade offs. However, I just feel this shouldn't have been one of them.
Thanks, Rodney! I don't know if there is enough room for an awning over the top. Maybe. I was thinking more of something underneath to divert the water coming off the slide awning and the main awning. I might be able to figure out something.
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08-18-2006, 06:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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I guess I'm missing something. It's really not been a significant problem for us. We don't have to throw the door wide open and slip out the extreme left side. We open the door a few inches wider than normal and skew to the left while exiting. Not a big deal for us. But maybe others feel differently.
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
Our RV Travels (now Firefox-compatible)
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08-19-2006, 07:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Dave, for diverting the water off the awning, just tilt your awning with the far side being the low side. You're supposed to tilt it anyhow so water doesn't pool on it. Make the door side the high side and you won't have water running off the door side. You don't need to tilt it very much.
See another Montana or Mountaineer on the road? Flash lights twice, it might be one of us!
Steve Reigle (pronounced Regal)
Fulltiming since 3/21/03
'03 3295RK
'05 Ford F250 SD Lariat CC SB 6.0L PSD/TS FX4 4x4
Our RV Travels (now Firefox-compatible)
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08-19-2006, 04:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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I have tilted it back as the front of the Montana is where our truck is parked and out main pathway out from under the awning. I will try both ways. Water still comes off the LR slide awning, though. This is going to take a few rainstorms to see how big or small of a problem this will become.
I would like to be able to store "stuff" along side the LR slide, but can't right now as it, plus the steps, get soaked. I will probably spend more time coming up with a fix as we get closer to the "snow" season (sometimes in Sept around here). We get surprise snow up here from Sept (usually late Sept) through May. I remember a big snowstorm on Mother's Day about 4 years ago. I really would like that area sheltered. There must be a way.
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