Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Montana Owners Club - Keystone Montana 5th Wheel Forum > GENERAL DISCUSSIONS > Tow Vehicles & Towing
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-30-2018, 12:45 PM   #1
Bnrc73
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Worthington
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #21597
Hitching up

2010 Montana 3400rl. This is my first 5er. During PDI the tech backed up a hooked up while I observed. When I hookup for the first time myself next week, I have a question. Do to a very tight parking pad in my back yard I wondered if there's any wiggle room to being perfectly straight to the pin? I can get it straight with a little wiggling the TV, but it would be easier with a slight Angle. Any opinions will help. Thanks in advance.
 
Bnrc73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 01:36 PM   #2
BuilderBob
Montana Master
 
BuilderBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
You have a little wiggle room but not much a lot depends on what kind of hitch you have
some have more then others and it's no problem others if you are not right on can ketch the pin and jam it up! maybe take some practices runs at it to see how it go's

Bob & Carol
Washington St
2017 HC 352RL 2008 Dodge 3500 DRW CC LB 4x4

Happy trails
BuilderBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 01:47 PM   #3
BB_TX
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,166
M.O.C. #6433
In one particular instance (that I will not elaborate on ) I had to hook up to mine at a severe angle, approaching 90 degrees. It would not slide up onto the hitch as it normally does, so I raised the trailer where the bottom of the pin box plate was about level with the top of the hitch plate. And the pin slipped right in and latched easily.

Don’t think you can do that with an auto slider hitch.
__________________
Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
BB_TX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 03:59 PM   #4
Carl n Susan
Site Team
 
Carl n Susan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,363
M.O.C. #4831
You didn't mention the bed length of the truck and the type of hitch you have. The 2010 Montana may have come with a Lippert or a MorRyde pin box, I don't recall. I assume for now, you have a long pin pox and not the short one.

Most long beds and hitches can connect at a pretty severe to extreme angle. The less angle the better but 30 degrees is not a problem. You do need to watch that the tailgate, if you have a standard one, doesn't impact the garage door of the Montana. This where the short v. long pin box can make a difference.

If you a short bed, then there are variations. Most manual sliders and regular hitches can hookup although you might have move the slider to the rear to clear the door. The PullRite automatic hitch is the only one I know which wants you to be straight on when hooking up. This is due to the wedge on the pin adapter.

__________________
Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB

Carl n Susan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 04:23 PM   #5
Bnrc73
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Worthington
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #21597
Quote:
Originally Posted by carl n susan View Post
You didn't mention the bed length of the truck and the type of hitch you have. The 2010 Montana may have come with a Lippert or a MorRyde pin box, I don't recall. I assume for now, you have a long pin pox and not the short one.

Most long beds and hitches can connect at a pretty severe to extreme angle. The less angle the better but 30 degrees is not a problem. You do need to watch that the tailgate, if you have a standard one, doesn't impact the garage door of the Montana. This where the short v. long pin box can make a difference.

If you a short bed, then there are variations. Most manual sliders and regular hitches can hookup although you might have move the slider to the rear to clear the door. The PullRite automatic hitch is the only one I know which wants you to be straight on when hooking up. This is due to the wedge on the pin adapter.

6-1/2 foot box. Mor/ride hitch
Bnrc73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 04:25 PM   #6
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
I’ve hooked up at at least 45 degrees and hooked to a DRV at 90 degrees. 45 degrees is no problem.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2018, 04:34 PM   #7
Theunz
Montana Master
 
Theunz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Catoosa
Posts: 780
M.O.C. #18384
If you can get the kingpin in the V of the hitch you should be ok----IF the trailer is low enough that the hitch raises the trailer up off the ground a 1/2" or so. If the hitch lifts the trailer it will move it enough to complete the hookup, if it doesn't lift it enough it might damage the landing gear. As mentioned watch that tailgate for contact with the front of the trailer. And after getting hooked ALWAYS do a tug test AND a visual inspection of the hitch jaws ALWAYS!!!
Theunz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2018, 07:34 AM   #8
The Bone
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Livermore
Posts: 321
M.O.C. #17521
I can see my hitch in the rear view mirror. I can center the pin every time. I have a 6.5 foot bed and no problem hooking at any angle. No slider
The Bone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2018, 03:39 PM   #9
Captain 'Murica
Established Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Cary
Posts: 12
M.O.C. #21304
In theory it is not really a problem. However, if you have an autoslider hitch it won't work. Also, you want to be careful about banding your tailgate on the trailer at an odd angle. I know that even straight on with my tailgate down i only have a couple of inches between the tailgate and the trailer.

Go slow, use judgment and watch YouTube to see other peoples mistakes so that you don't make them yourself. Good luck!
__________________
2018 Montana High Country 385BR
2017 Ford F-350 DRW 6.7L PSD
____________________________________________
Captain 'Murica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2018, 04:00 PM   #10
Bnrc73
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Worthington
Posts: 146
M.O.C. #21597
Thanks for all the great advice. Since I'll be looking at 10-15 degrees off center I should be ok. Take it slow and "goal". (get out and look). Happy camping. Heading out next week for a couple days of casino camping. Wish us luck.
Bnrc73 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2018, 06:09 PM   #11
mlh
Montana Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
[QUOTE=Bnrc73;1097163Heading out next week for a couple days of casino camping. Wish us luck.[/QUOTE]
Luck
You will need it the odds are stacked against you.
Lynwood
mlh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2018, 08:37 PM   #12
mtlakejim
Montana Master
 
mtlakejim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
It depends on what you mean by perfectly straight. If you mean can you back up at an angle to the trailer then yes you can do that at least with a fixed (IE:non sliding) hitch or even with non automatic sliders. Only hitch I would question if it would be an issue is the automatic sliders. I will default to someone else who has one of those for the expertise.


I would caution about trying to hitch up if your bed is tilted driver to passenger side however as that can cause issues if the angle is too extreme......


Like others have mentioned you should keep an eye on your tailgate clearance, especially while trying to hitch at severe angles.
__________________
James & Irene Wilson
Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
mtlakejim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2018, 03:57 PM   #13
footz1941
Montana Fan
 
footz1941's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 247
M.O.C. #21057
Anderson Ultimate 20K. No problems about being straight or not. Like has been said watch your tailgate
__________________
2018 Montana High Country 331RL
2006 Ram 2500 SRW 4X4 Laramie Quad Cab 5 .9
Andersen Ultimate 20K Hitch Lippert Solid Steps Steady Fast stabilizes
Rex and Patsy
footz1941 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2018, 07:30 AM   #14
The Bone
Montana Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Livermore
Posts: 321
M.O.C. #17521
you chalk the wheels on the trailer. I bent a landing gear because i forgot to chalk the wheels.
The Bone is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Montana RV, Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.