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11-14-2018, 06:40 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Bethalto
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M.O.C. #22699
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After 3 1/2 million miles of driving an 18 wheeler ( twin trailers ) I have had my share of stubborn fifth wheels. What I can tell you is you don't want any play between the king pin and locking jaws. If you do you have less control over the way you pull down the highway. When you park your rig just shift your truck in the opposite direction, take up the slack and shift the other way just enough to release tension. True, you need to lower the landing gear also to help take the pressure off. There will be times this won't even work, depends on how level you are. I've had my share. Just roll with it.
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11-14-2018, 03:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Jim, according to B&W and the older press releases, it is not supposed to be able to come loose by pulling on the jaws themselves even with the pin not in. But humans made it.
Lynnwood. Understood.
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11-14-2018, 10:52 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Eureka
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Golfmedik, I think you are correct about not having to put the pin in it. I think that having the weight on it helps keep the jaws closed. I think the person I talked to probably hit a big bump and it raised it enough to take the weight off of it and that is why the jaws opened and the trailer came off of the hitch. Thanks for your information it sure makes me feel better about my B&W hitch.
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11-17-2018, 07:29 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Dover
Posts: 75
M.O.C. #15866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer
I did call B & W Tech Line and the gentleman said this is not uncommon. He recommended opening the handle and put the pin in the hole that will hold it open. Back up and then pull forward. It worked perfect and released. Thanks for all of the helpful answers.
Jim
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This is the advice that I have followed. Has easily worked every time. (3 times in six years). I like this hitch much better then my previous Reese hitch.
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11-18-2018, 08:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmer
I did call B & W Tech Line and the gentleman said this is not uncommon. He recommended opening the handle and put the pin in the hole that will hold it open. Back up and then pull forward. It worked perfect and released. Thanks for all of the helpful answers.
Jim
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That will work almost every time but not always. I’ve had mine in such a bind that would not work. You can get your camper on such uneven ground and in enough bind that will not work. I know been there done that.
Lynwood
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11-18-2018, 02:11 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Battle Ground
Posts: 6
M.O.C. #13659
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All good comments and suggestions👌🏻 In my (limited experience) with my companion hitch) I reconized there was (as noted) a lot of surface friction) between the moving components causing quit a lot of scuffing and flaking of the coatings. From my experience with dis-siimilar metals and corrosion, I keep the moving parts coated with corrosion resistant lubrication and as well I keep my hitch covered when not in use—-“MY 2cents worth”
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11-18-2018, 02:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Actually dissimilar metals is what you wont. The same metals have the same grain structures and will gauld. That’s why bolt action rifle receivers are made of two materials. The receiver is one material the bolt a different material and are hardened to different degrees.
Lynwood
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11-18-2018, 02:53 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Battle Ground
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M.O.C. #13659
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MLH-Thanks for the correction- poor use of words. Galling would possibly be a more familiar example? Definition— “ a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together.”Wikipedia
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11-18-2018, 03:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CFmaster
MLH-Thanks for the correction- poor use of words. Galling would possibly be a more familiar example? Definition— “ a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together.”Wikipedia
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Thanks that is what I meant to say.
Lynwood
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11-18-2018, 05:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: STAYTON
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They are not problematic, they have tight tolerances, it’s possible you have too much weight on the hitch. As soon as you find the sweet spot you won’t have any more trouble.
Mark
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11-18-2018, 05:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,550
M.O.C. #2283
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Mark I definitely agree. They are a great hitch none better. You can’t buy a better hitch.
Lynwood
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11-18-2018, 06:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: North Lake Tahoe
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M.O.C. #18510
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This happens to me about 1 out of every 8 times, and I just take a bungee and pull the handle way back and hook it to something to keep the handle way open, and move the truck forward and it disconnects. But i also spray lubricant into all the moving parts I can see in there and it makes it work much better.
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11-19-2018, 06:17 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Draper
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #22690
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Problem with my B&W Companion Hitch
Always make sure you have raised your 5th Wheel off the hitch enough to pull away. Then, open the arm. As stated in other replies, if there is pressure on the hitch from the 5th Wheel's weight, the arm will just move forward without opening the jaws. Good luck and enjoy!
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11-19-2018, 06:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Where ever we park
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M.O.C. #20273
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I had this happen to me once, I had to lock the handle, and move the truck back and forth a tad. Then I put down the front legs and was good to go. Though I wish they would make the fifth wheel like the ones the semi's use, I think that would be much better
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2016 Chevy CC DRW Duramax
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11-19-2018, 09:18 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Cameron
Posts: 38
M.O.C. #15936
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This now works every time for me.
In my experience, the best procedure to disconnect and avoid this is:
1. Pull lever back and pin it in open position.
2. Raise trailer so there is about 1/2" open clearance between bottom of trailer hitch pad and truck hitch pad. So no weight on the truck.
3. If there is any resistance on the pin being let loose from the jaws, gently move forward and back a little.
Works every time this happens. Usually when trailer is slightly side to side in a different position than truck.
When I connect the trailer, I also get close enough to set trailer height so there is same 1/2" or less clearance between pads.
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