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11-02-2017, 06:02 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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I am reasonably certain that most of us here started in tents and moved up from there. Some to pop ups then to travel trailers and eventually to a fifth wheel. We all learned lessons along the way with each change to something bigger and better.
You however are starting at the top with zero experience towing anything. I commend you for that. Just take it slow and easy, the rest will come it time (hopefully without too many mishaps)
I think I can say that all of us here are more than willing to help you in any way we can.
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11-02-2017, 08:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Originally Posted by JABURKHOLDER
This may sound silly but...if you have time to kill, go to a truck stop and watch the truckers pull in or out. Notice how wide they make their turns. Watch them back their rigs in those tight spots. Notice which way their front wheels turn and which way the trailer moves as they back up. Pay attention to their truck stop etiquette (pulling forward after fueling).
They are maneuvering much longer tractor/trailer rigs than you will have. If they can do it, so can you.
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This isn't silly at all. It gives you a visual perspective from outside the drivers seat.
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11-02-2017, 08:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Originally Posted by bigred715
Before leaving campground do a walk around, looking for TV antennae being up, all doors closed and locked, slides in, steps folded back up , hose all undone and put away, power cord detached and put away and make sure your lights and turn signals are working. Have fun and good luck.
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That lends itself to making a checklist. You can then do the tasks repetitively and they become second nature. I would add... don't let yourself get distracted from the process of setting up and breaking down camp. Well intentioned people sometimes strike up a friendly conversation and you lose track of where you are in the process. More than one person here has forgotten something as a result and damage to their RV or truck has occurred.
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2010 3150RL
LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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11-02-2017, 08:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Ore City Texas
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #2224
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I'm sure that most of you survived. What suggestions and advice do you have for thie newbie towing couple????
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Some very good suggestions. Note especially:
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-Make wide turns. You do not want the trailer wheels going over or into curbs etc. This will damage the axles.
-If a gas station does not look large enough, do not pull into it. You may have a hell of a time getting back out. Also make sure the canopy is high enough.
-Leave as much room in front of you as possible. You will not be able to stop on a dime (trust me).
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The biggest problem I had was cornering. It took me a full year before I stopped running over curbs on corners - and my rig was just 34 feet long. After 10 years or so I figured out to always take whatever is available on corners
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At first MAKE yourself think that you are DRIVING a 50+ foot long, 13+ foot high vehicle. In other words, you are NOT driving a pickup truck--that's just the engine. You are driving the whole rig. As you get experience you will feel this instinctively as you make turns, slow down, go down steep hills, pull into stations; but at first you will have to make a conscious effort to think like this.
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11-03-2017, 12:08 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Saint George
Posts: 188
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I'm was in the same situation you're in bought 5th wheel had no idea what I was doing (wife still thinks I don't) any way everything stated above I agree with be careful and have fun. one thing I would add is to make sure your are hitch up properly not high hitched or thinking your king pin is locked in, take the extra 10 second to look at the jaws and make sure its all looking right. have seen quite a few rigs on the road with collapsed bed rails indicating the trailer came unhitched. familiarity can breed complacency.
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11-03-2017, 03:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CORattler
...That lends itself to making a checklist...
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For sure...I use a 3 x 5 card.
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11-03-2017, 05:45 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 179
M.O.C. #722
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CORattler
That lends itself to making a checklist. You can then do the tasks repetitively and they become second nature. I would add... don't let yourself get distracted from the process of setting up and breaking down camp. Well intentioned people sometimes strike up a friendly conversation and you lose track of where you are in the process. More than one person here has forgotten something as a result and damage to their RV or truck has occurred.
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X2. I try not to talk to anyone when hooking up. It's easy to get distracted and miss a step (which would not be good when you're hooking up).
Good luck, you're going to enjoy it
Steve
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11-04-2017, 07:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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I highly recommend taking a professional course given by professional instructors in terms of learning how to tow the right way.
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11-04-2017, 08:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SRD
X2. I try not to talk to anyone when hooking up. It's easy to get distracted and miss a step (which would not be good when you're hooking up).
Good luck, you're going to enjoy it
Steve
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Two things I learned attending Army helicopter flight training...always use a check list and if ever interrupted start over at the beginning.
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11-04-2017, 08:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Winchester
Posts: 900
M.O.C. #19514
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I agree with taking a professional course.
I have a few suggestions for things that work for us.
1. Make lists - I have several. One if for stuff to do on hitching up, inside and outside. Things like gather up loose articles, tie chairs down, lock shower door, etc. I also have a list of stuff to bring on each trip, one for regular trailer stock (especially pantry items) that might need to be re-stocked from, and items kept in the basement storage in case they get removed and need to be put back.
2. Store stuff in bins - this makes it easier to find stuff and it keeps things from getting messed up while in transit.
3. When you back into a new campsite, look up as well as everywhere else. Can you hit a tree branch? Also, before you unhook, make sure there is enough space to put out your slides. Is the power and water pole in the way?
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11-04-2017, 09:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,877
M.O.C. #19944
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Look up especially, I just backed into a new extended parking spot last night - spotters & I forgot the "Up There" and we removed an old phone line.
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11-04-2017, 09:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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I bought mine in southern alabama and then towed for very first time up to Atlanta Georgia using roads that weren't busy as freeways so that I could drive at 50 to 60 mph and not fell pressured to drive faster. It was a great way to learn how to tow. Also drive a f350 dually and wouldn't be without it.
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11-04-2017, 10:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,877
M.O.C. #19944
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Did anyone mention to get Sailun or Goodyear 14 ply tires on 5er?
I will be changing my real soon
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11-04-2017, 04:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,318
M.O.C. #17894
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Yes I recommended the goodyears or sailuns in post #13
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11-04-2017, 10:40 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: big pine
Posts: 128
M.O.C. #9253
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If buying a new truck it may be easier to have them install a exhaust brake,tow mirrors,tire pressure&temp. Monitor, tow pkg. And or camper pkg. ,trailer brake,hitch puck system and maybe a larger fuel tank or storage box combo!
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12-06-2017, 08:46 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Full Timing
Posts: 13
M.O.C. #19649
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Interesting that people mention going to a driving school to become familiar with pulling a 5th wheel. I scoured the internet looking for someone who did that. No one offered a course on 5ers. Only motor homes. If anyone has really gotten a 5er course, please share the name of the business!
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12-06-2017, 09:15 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: ALAMEDA
Posts: 227
M.O.C. #20448
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My first 5th wheel keystone laredo 2005. Left the dealer with no trailer brake and did not know what that was. Took out a stop sign on the way home making too sharp a turn. Next time out I wiped out the entire left side of the trailer in the campsite rubbing up against a redwood fence $6,500 in damage. After those 2 incidents I decided 2 things slow down and act like you are not going to hit anything, 10 years and no more incidents. Lesson learned slow down and stop if in doubt. Do not worry what other people think do what you need to do. BTW towed to Alaska and back without any problem. The best driving school is you.
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12-06-2017, 09:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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Wow talk about jumping into the deep end right off the bat. It's ok though. You will be fine IF you listen to all the advice of the good people on this site. Like many others said take it SLOW. Since you have a relative that is a truck driver have him drive the rig out to a big parking lot and help you learn the basics of tight quarters manuvers. That will give you some confidence before you hit the highway. Driving down the highway isn't all that difficult if you don't get into too big of a hurry and plan ahead. Main thing is remember that new rig won't stop on a dime (keep plenty of cushion in front of you!).
Make sure you get more than enough tow truck. You will never regret getting a larger truck but will instantly regret not having enough! It isn't the pull that gets you it's the STOP and STABILTY. Go for at least the 1 ton diesel dually 4x4 long bed! You won't regret it. Safety first and that starts by not pushing the tow capacity. Spend the extra money on things that matter (IE: better tires, best hitch you can get, tire monitor), if it is related to safety it is worth it!
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12-07-2017, 06:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLightning
Get the dually for sure, a 40' rig requires a dually. The biggest thing to remember about a 5th wheel is that when making a turn, it cuts the corner...previous posters have mentioned making wide turns, that's why. Also, when backing move the bottom of the steering wheel in the direction you want the back end of the trailer to go.
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Actually, LENGTH doesn't dictate what truck you need it's the actual gross weight of the fiver and it's pin weight and neither "require" a dually as long as you don't exceed truck specs.
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12-07-2017, 06:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Many trucking companies will offer a course in driving. Driving a 18 wheeler has a lot in common with towing a 5th wheel
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