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08-25-2019, 08:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Bedford
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Do you need an inverter generator
I've been looking at a Champion 4k inverter generator and saw this at Costco today. The price difference is about $100 and I could run the whole coach. My question is how important is an inverter? Would the Firma work just as well? Thanks
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08-25-2019, 08:35 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Charleston
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The inverter is much cleaner and steady power. Meaning it will stay at the rated voltage better and is much better for your electronics and appliance circuit boards. Its more like the power coming from your electric provider at home with a clean sine wave.
The inverter is also usually much, much more quiet than non inverters. They run at less rpms. That contractor generator will have anyone within a quarter mile mad at you in 5 minutes.  In short, I highly recommend an inverter portable genny.
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08-25-2019, 09:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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I have 2 HF 3500 generators/Inverters, very reasonably priced quiet. I have 2 that I run in parallel to run my entire coach with a little room to spare.
p.s. can't see the picture...
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08-25-2019, 10:39 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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You will want an inverter generator because they are much quieter. I also have the HF 3500 and am very pleased. The HF is 57 db and the Firman is 58db. Either one would be great. You can't beat the Costco return policy! The Harbor Freight is 3500watts and has both electric start and pull start.
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08-26-2019, 02:07 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Bedford
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M.O.C. #21728
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Here's the generator. I did learn something about the Champion 100302. It seems it requires a grounding rod. Does the HF 3500 need one?
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08-26-2019, 02:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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I think all generators require a ground rod but nobody uses them.
You are certainly better off with an inverter than a standard generator, clean power, much less noise. They are safe for all your electronic equipment where a standard generator isn’t.
Get an inverter. You will not be sorry you did.
Lynwood
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08-26-2019, 02:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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That’s going to be a very loud one. If you get it and boondock hopefully you are alone, no neighbors for 1/4 mile lol. No my HF dont need grounding rods. Sorry it’s sideways forgot to rotate before uploading.
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08-26-2019, 03:07 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Last2Die I sent you a PM
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08-26-2019, 03:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
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The Firman genny you show runs at 74 db at 50% power. That will be WAY too loud for a campground!
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08-26-2019, 03:41 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sterling Heights Mi
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M.O.C. #23262
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Check out the new Firman Dual Fuel Inverter ( WHO 3042 )
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08-26-2019, 03:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Arlington
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The timing of this post is just to prophetic. I just got run out of the Badlands because someone parked 10' behind me and ran a contractor generator all day and night. Just ruined the experience.
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08-31-2019, 06:43 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Atlanta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Fireguy
The timing of this post is just to prophetic. I just got run out of the Badlands because someone parked 10' behind me and ran a contractor generator all day and night. Just ruined the experience.
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wow - that sucks. there are really some people out there you are running out of fingers. ...
I would ask to shut it off.
Mike
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08-31-2019, 10:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
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M.O.C. #19630
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Regarding Grounding the Generator-Important
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09-01-2019, 05:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW Fireguy
The timing of this post is just to prophetic. I just got run out of the Badlands because someone parked 10' behind me and ran a contractor generator all day and night. Just ruined the experience.
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I`ve experience this to and did say something to the guy while they were out in the chairs under the awning cause the exhaust was pointing at our unit 30ft. away and he said "you need to stay in your own camping area and mind your own business as he thru another beer can under his trailer. We moved the next morning after a night of unrelenting noise, even the bed a/c wouldn`t drown it out.
I went with the new Westinghouse 4500 dual fuel inverter after selling the 2 Yamaha`s I had. Very nice, as quite, remote start and run on propane instead of the problematic gas side. It would be nice if someone would come out with a 6000 watt like this at a fair price to run both a/c`s and more. Pic of my set up in the back of the truck works for for me at the moment.
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08-26-2019, 05:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
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M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AV Tech
Check out the new Firman Dual Fuel Inverter ( WHO 3042 )
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I checked them out, just curious they look good. They are a little more money then the HF 3500 and slightly lower on the running and starting watts. Good warranty and of course Costco, they back everything.
Tony
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08-28-2019, 11:33 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Aztec
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M.O.C. #23272
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Sale this Monday at HF.
Predator 3500 on sale for 699.99, coupon for 25% off, brings it to 524 and change.
Any other coupons to add to it out there ?
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08-28-2019, 12:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
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M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MxBound
Sale this Monday at HF.
Predator 3500 on sale for 699.99, coupon for 25% off, brings it to 524 and change.
Any other coupons to add to it out there ?
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Coupon is not valid on Predator products. Read the fine print on the coupon.
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08-28-2019, 01:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by prndl
Coupon is not valid on Predator products. Read the fine print on the coupon.
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Yea I learned the hard way.
Lynwood
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09-02-2019, 04:32 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Sout Burlington
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I don't think the HF 25 % can be used on Generators (watch the fine print)
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08-28-2019, 09:36 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Aztec
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M.O.C. #23272
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Oh well...
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