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09-20-2005, 10:32 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sioux Falls
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M.O.C. #2005
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Toilet seal leak??
For some reason, my toilet seems to be letting the water in the bowl drain down the tube.... Any suggestions as to why????
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09-20-2005, 01:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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M.O.C. #20
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Usually it's because a bit of toilet paper or other debris got into that groove that slide sits in. You can try doing several flushes to see if that clears it out. Or take a coat hanger and run it around that groove lightly. Good luck. Let us know. We used to have this problem before we started power flushing to make sure the paper is floating before flushing. Hard to do in the dark, though.
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09-20-2005, 02:05 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #2121
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We have had the same experience as Steve - a little piece of toilet paper caught in the seal. Be very gentle when you run the coat hanger around.
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09-20-2005, 02:32 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #331
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Might want to try wearing rubber gloves (surgical type) and a gentle cleaning of the seal groove with a small popsicle stick. Wood edge will be more gentle to the seal. Surgeon's gloves are good things to have around!!
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09-20-2005, 03:46 PM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #2005
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Thanks all.... I will try tomorrow with a scrubber and my purple nitrile first aid gloves.... or maybe a plastic spoon... hmmm
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09-20-2005, 04:30 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #2819
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Latex gloves are great to have near any sewer experience. I carry some to use when hooking and unhooking the sewer hose. I hope it's not a bad seal or anything worse where you have to pull the toilet.
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09-21-2005, 02:32 AM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #2005
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I don't think it is... just happened in the last few weeks.... (I think after a night boondocking) I am reasonably confident that a good scraping will do the trick.
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09-21-2005, 03:37 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #3628
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I have had that happen also. The cleaning seems to do the trick. I lubricate the seal with a small amount of vasilene every once in awhile. I had one that would stick in the partially open position (weak spring)and the lubrication helped.
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09-21-2005, 05:37 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #1935
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We keep a little "tool box" a snap closed box in the locker next to the sewer hose that we keep several pair of surgical gloves, rags and now I think I'll throw in a couple of popsical sticks. The gloves also come in handy when we stop at a, not so clean Diesel fuel station, or if the stations don't always have some disposable gloves available, it helps to keep other peoples sloppiness off your hands.
Joy
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09-22-2005, 08:59 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #20
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Great ideas. I like the ideas for something easier on the seal than the wire coathanger. I keep a box of latex gloves in the outside locker for when handling the sewer hose and connections. I buy a box of 50 or so for around four bucks in the Walmart pharmacy area.
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09-22-2005, 02:54 PM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #1013
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After cleaning any debris away from the ball, spray it with Pam and it will lubricate it very well!
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09-22-2005, 03:25 PM
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Montana Fan
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Try using a finger nail file. It is not to abrasive and will clean the build up. Works pretty good.You did not say what type of toilet you had is it a flat blade type seal or the round ball type by sealand?
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quote:Originally posted by RangerMelB
For some reason, my toilet seems to be letting the water in the bowl drain down the tube.... Any suggestions as to why????
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09-22-2005, 09:21 PM
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Montana Fan
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I actually kiped a coffee stir (wooden) from the break room in the operations building.... it seemed to work really well!!!! it's like a popsicle stick, only not as wide... fits in there perfectly.... keeping it behind the toilet with the scrub brush and the stink good stuff.
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09-23-2005, 03:10 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #3628
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The Pam idea sounds good to me. Easy to apply and should lubricate well. Thanks
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09-23-2005, 06:06 AM
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Montana Fan
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The Pam idea sounds good. Just make sure you buy a can just for that purpose as it would be very easy to cross contaminate if you use the same can for cooking.
Gary
BTW
I'm referring to cross contaminating your hands, not the contents of the can.
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09-23-2005, 11:52 AM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #2005
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Wy-leee cyoteeee...... Suuuuper Geeenius!!
I love you signature line!!!
Mine is the ball sort... thinking about that pam trick...
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09-25-2005, 10:35 AM
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Montana Fan
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We have a 2005 purchased in March 05 and experienced the same problem from day 1.
The manufacturer just replaced the toilet under warranty.
I tried cleaning it several times with no success.
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09-25-2005, 11:11 AM
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Montana Fan
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M.O.C. #2005
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That's the difference... mine was fine.. then it wasn't.. now it is again.. sooooo
Must have been gunked up.
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09-25-2005, 12:23 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by RangerMelB
That's the difference... mine was fine.. then it wasn't.. now it is again.. sooooo
Must have been gunked up.
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I don't know if you've got the porcelain toilet or not, but we've got one with the same intermittent problem.
Hard water eventually cakes onto the surfaces, causing the leaking. The use of PAM or Vaseline is a good idea, though. Those should defy calcium build-up.
I think I'm going to try that, since I don't have the "SealLand" product that seems to be a lubricant for that seal.
I have found that "CLR Bathroom Cleaner" seems to help dissolve that build-up. Along with running the plastic stick thing that came with the toilet, (It was in a bag behind the toilet, barely noticeable.) It seems to wipe away the build-up.
Good Luck,
Steve
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09-25-2005, 08:10 PM
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Montana Fan
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We were having the same problem and our dealer /tech showed us a little trick and it seems to to be working. When you flush ,just let the foot peddle just snap a little a couple of times to keep things clean. Seems to work , we stopped loosing water. No glooves or coat hangers required either. Also he told us the vaseline was a good idea from time to time.
wa4bmg
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