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07-14-2019, 02:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Reno
Posts: 293
M.O.C. #22620
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Sounds like a big problem. Hopefully, you have the 3 year chassis warranty from LCI and since the pop outs are part of the LCI chassis, it should be covered.
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07-14-2019, 02:22 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Greenwood
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #17498
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Ok, here is my guess. We had mucho trouble with both big slides (kitchen and living room) on our 2016 HC. Our repair guy found that, while the little BR slide had two white Teflon rollers under it, - visible when the slide is out and you are looking underneath it while outside the rig - the big kitchen slide had two rollers but they were at the very ends of the slide where they were basically useless. The LR slide had no rollers under it at all! The miracle is that it worked as long as it did. He centered the rollers on the kitchen slide where they would do some good and installed the two rollers on the LR slide which the factory had “overlooked” and we were good to go - until our next disaster. I noticed that when the kitchen slide moved, the wall adjacent to it moved with it a few inches. Our dealer fixed it under warranty. When I asked them what the problem was, they said there was a “bad weld” where the stud adjacent the to the slide attaches to the frame. We were good to go again - until our next disaster. At some BLM area in the middle of Nowhere, Utah, the same bulging wall thing was happening on the kitchen slide next to the entry door. This time, I sawed a hole in the outer skin at the base of the stud and discovered that there was NO WELD at all to hold the stud to the frame. My redneck repair was to screw a metal plate to the stud and frame and the bulging problem went away. I’m now convinced that the dealer should have said “no weld” instead of “bad weld” and that, most likely, NONE of the RV’s studs got welded to the frame! Bottom line: I am very underwhelmed with the build quality of our HC and. rather than wait around to see what the next disaster will be, we plan to trade up to a Grand Design Solitude. What sold me on Grand Design is the fact that, when I asked two separate, highly experienced, non-dealer RV repair technicians in two different states which brand of fifth wheel RV had the fewest problems, they both replied “Grand Design” without a second’s delay.
I’m sorry that this rant was so long winded, but I hope that someone on this forum will find it helpful. Thanks for letting me vent.
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07-14-2019, 02:57 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Prescott
Posts: 82
M.O.C. #22749
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Just a guess. Did previous owner install any new cables? If so were they routed correctly? Is the chain installed correctly on motor sprocket
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Larry and Linda Stetz
2018 3820FK
2019 F350 Lariet DRW 14000# GVWR 6.7 Turbo Diesel
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07-14-2019, 07:34 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Calgary
Posts: 1
M.O.C. #14542
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Are you sure they aren’t hydraulic slides? I have a 2008 Montana 2980 and my slides are hydraulic if the reservoir is low then they will not work properly.
Good luck.
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07-14-2019, 09:18 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 16
M.O.C. #17854
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Just a thought. There should be 2 relays or solenoids to operate the motors. One for in, one for out. Usually they are located in the front compartment. You may be able to test them by swapping the wires from one to another then use the opposite switch to see if it works. Just sayin.
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07-15-2019, 12:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,470
M.O.C. #23668
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This is a High Country so not hydraulic. Are there solenoids for the electric levelers?
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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07-15-2019, 10:35 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: minneapolis
Posts: 16
M.O.C. #17854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jsb5717
This is a High Country so not hydraulic. Are there solenoids for the electric levelers?
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Anything with a high current draw will use relays or solenoids. Worth looking at them. Good luck.
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07-20-2019, 04:36 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Prescott
Posts: 156
M.O.C. #15914
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No you are absolutely right to rant.
We went to the 2017 rally and when we started to extend the living room slide the wall to the right started to split. Same problem. No welds. Keystone kept the rig for two more weeks after the rally and completely replaced the entire wall from front to back.
Other than the living room slide trim falling off on our way home (poorly repaired by local dealer) we have had no other issues with the 305rl except this annoying problem.
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07-20-2019, 05:24 PM
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#29
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Greenwood
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #17498
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Great! Did they check the welds on all of the studs or just the ones next to the slide outs? Since we had two studs without welds, I’m very doubtful about the rest of ours. Glad you got yours taken care of under warranty. We’ve also had to replace two slide motors and two gearboxes. Since they aren’t super expensive, but hard to find in stock, you might want to carry one of each - just in case. Safe travels. Phil
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07-22-2019, 02:27 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Prescott
Posts: 156
M.O.C. #15914
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Maybe I should go back to this years rally LOL. I think I need 3 gearboxes!
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07-22-2019, 03:29 PM
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#31
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Greenwood
Posts: 43
M.O.C. #17498
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Seriously, not a bad idea. Also, you might want to have a cable kit or two on hand if you’re going to be off grid at all. Two of our cables got mis-aligned and ended up getting frayed into a mess the size of a basketball You will thank me later. Phil
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