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06-14-2023, 12:11 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Stanwood
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Black tank dissolving
Hi all…..new 2022 3931 owner. What is strongest black tank dissolver? Currently using Aquamax (two pods) and “septic safe” tp, but turds and tp not disolving very much. What is strongest black tank dissolver available? Thx
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06-14-2023, 01:45 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Possum trot
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As far as helping to dissolve, I can’t help you. We don’t flush “tp”. It sticks to the sensors and tank monitors.
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06-14-2023, 01:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,169
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The short time solids remain in the black tank means there is not going to be much microbiological decomposition. Main thing is to use plenty of water to flush all those solids out when you drain. If the water doesn’t come gushing out with force when you pull the handle then you need to be using more water.
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06-14-2023, 02:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,551
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The key is Little paper, lots of water. That’s all you need.
Lynwood
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06-14-2023, 02:31 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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We prefer Unique, it produce a chocolate colored flow with no papers or solids, and our second choice is Happy Camper.
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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06-14-2023, 02:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
Posts: 2,596
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I'm not going to repeat it all. Check out this thread: Click here.
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06-14-2023, 03:13 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
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Start with 5-8 gallons of water in the tank before using.
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2018 3160RL
"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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06-14-2023, 06:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
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Another tank additive that we use is TankTechsRx, and it is also an active biological tank treatment. Depending on where you live, Amazon will not ship Happy Camper to some locations. They will deliver Unique RV Digest-It and TankTechsRx
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2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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06-14-2023, 10:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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Only dump the tanks when they are 1/2 full or more. The more water the better.
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2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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06-15-2023, 04:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,140
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All the advice above is good advice.
I would add that the Unique Tank Cleaner has worked well for me. I also use their tank treatment. Toilet paper turns to a gel/sludge and is completely dissolved in a couple of days.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BP8698N4...v_ov_lig_dp_it
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2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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06-15-2023, 06:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Northeast TX
Posts: 944
M.O.C. #30262
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X3 on Unique. It's made a believer out of us. Cheaper by the gallon and lasts a long time
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22 MHC 331RL, Surge Guard 35550, SumoSprings, Kodiak disc brakes, 412Ah Lithium, Gen 3 Goosebox, Sailun 85s
22 Ram 3500 CC DRW 6.7 CTD Herrin Hauler Classic Bed, 45 gal AUX tank
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06-15-2023, 07:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
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OK, here I go again. In order to get around the toilet paper problem, install a Bidet in your camper. No more toilet paper ever. No more problems with the black tank. And the "bottom" always feels fresh and clean!
I know, a lot of people are skeptical of these. But it IS the solution for toilet paper! Don't knock till you've tried it!
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06-15-2023, 08:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchmenSport
OK, here I go again. In order to get around the toilet paper problem, install a Bidet in your camper. No more toilet paper ever. No more problems with the black tank. And the "bottom" always feels fresh and clean!
I know, a lot of people are skeptical of these. But it IS the solution for toilet paper! Don't knock till you've tried it!
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I don't get why you say no more paper??? Do you just wash off the butt and pull up your pants wet???? You must have to dry somehow.
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2012 Silverado 2500
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06-15-2023, 09:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twindman
I don't get why you say no more paper??? Do you just wash off the butt and pull up your pants wet???? You must have to dry somehow.
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We have color coded wash cloths specifically for this purpose of drying. It's the only thing we use them for. It's no different than drying the bottom with a bath towel. IF ... and yes ... sometimes this does happen ... they get streaked, they go in the wash, usually washed with the underware pile. We have about 15, same color, washcloths we use in the camper. With a washing machine and a dryer in the camper, it's really easy to maintain clean laundry all the time.
In the house, we have color coded for each bathroom too. I think we have about 20 wash clothes dedicated for each one. Our septic tank is much, much cleaner now since we started doing this months before Covid hit. It really was a great thing, especially during the toilet paper crisis, we didn't have to purchase a single roll of the stuff.
If you men don't like them, that's OK. I was extremely skeptical myself. When my wife started having (internal) problems, our doctor recommended a Bidet. I was still hesitent, but still went ahead and installed one in the house. I figured I'd never have to use it.
Well, she absolutely loved it. I did use it and it was a bit awkward at first, but over a short time, I started noticing my OWN benefits. And in a short while, I was OK and actually like it better now.
If you men, don't want to use it, that's OK. I absolutely do understand. BUT .... your wifes will absolutely love it! They work "both ways" for them. I haven't met a women yet that didn't like Bidets. I'm a bit crude... I ask. I got over embarrassment a long, long time ago.
Now, just imagine how much easier it would be if your wives never put TP down the black tank? How much TP would you save? How much $$$ would you save on TP? How much easier it would be to dump the black tank and NOT have to go through gallons and gallons and gallons of water to flush all that stuff out. And think how much HAPPIER she will be!
In all ways, even if YOU never use it.... you come out the winner! She will love you for it.... really!
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2019 Montana High Country 375FL
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06-15-2023, 01:10 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Jack
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My brother has bidets installed in his home. He goes on and on about how great they are, and he says his wife thinks they're just the bee's knees also. He continued to insinuate how crude and unrefined we were for not having the same luxuries installed in our home. He successfully piqued my interest in at least exploring the possibility. After discussing with my wife, at some length, the potential benefits of installing a couple or three of them things, we determined that being on the receiving end of a jet of cold water to the back-side, where it's drawed up like a 'baccer-sack, was not very high on our list of luxury experiences that we've been missing out on. I did try, unsuccessfully, to use one once while in Europe, from whence all manner of refinement is dispersed to the rubes of other less civilized societies. I'm not sure if it was my own inexperience with such a luxurious amenity, or if the sights weren't properly adjusted for the windage. Whichever was the case, I took a direct hit to the jewels from a cold-water cannon, seemingly sufficient to remove love bug guts from the front of a Montana. It was after assessing the perceived damages and determining that I had indeed NOT been the recipient of the world's first water-cannon emasculation service, that I determined that a bidet was better left to those of superior refinement. My brother still carries on about his like he oughta have a velvet rope around his toilet now, and he's still my brother, so to each their own but, I'm a hard pass myself. I'll continue to use the extra water necessary to do a couple flushes of the ol'black tank.
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06-16-2023, 05:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
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Have a bidet in camper and at home. I used to make fun of those that had them TP shortage made a believer. I use TP to dry. I use way less TP. If you are going to use plenty of water, you might as well get double duty out of it.
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06-16-2023, 08:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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Great post JamesDean! You should be a writer! My wife and I laughed so hard. We have bidet’s at home and are looking into one for the Montana.
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2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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06-16-2023, 08:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Anderson
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JamesDean334, your encounter made me smile and grin from ear to ear! I hear what you are saying. I completely understand.
To get around the "cold" they do make them with heaters, and built in blow driers, if you don't mind doing a little extra electrical work and plumbing.
From what I understand, those are REALLY the cats meow! Actually, we don't mind the cold "shock" any more. I'm too cheap to get the electric heated ones.
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06-16-2023, 09:26 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Jack
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I think that the root of our apprehension about bidets is directly related to an earlier life experience, or rather our witnessing of the experience. My father-in-law enjoyed an all-u-can eat salad bar, at his wife's 60-year class reunion, a little (likely, a lot) more than he should have. His overindulgence led to something of an uncontrollable "move" on the 30-minute ride home afterward. Miss Betty, the driver of the rather new and always immaculate Lincoln Town Car, abruptly asked Don, "What the h**l is that smell!? Do you smell that?" Don answered, "Well Betty, I've s**t in my britches!" She then asked, "In my car!?" Don replied, "Well you didn't see me jump out did ya?" She inquired of Don, "Why'd you do THAT!?" He replied, "If you hadn't stopped to hug all them old folk's necks, we'd done been home by now and I wouldn't have s**t in my britches, in your car!" Clearly Don laid the responsibility for this travesty at Miss Betty's feet. Clever Don. Clever indeed. There was no further conversation necessary for the remainder of the ride home.
Upon arrival, however, Miss Betty had a few more words. After parking the aforementioned Lincoln and immediately upon their exit from the vehicle, Don made a dash for the door. Well, Miss Betty put the brakes on that... "Get your nasty a** out here and drop them britches! You ain't going in the house like THAT!" Well Don, after 50 years' experience, new just what to do next; he dropped them britches out by the water spicket that was strategically installed immediately outside their carport. Miss Betty proceeds to use the makeshift bidet that was screwed onto the end of the hose pipe to attempt to return Don's behind to a state that would permit his entrance into the house. After the high-pressure application of several gallons of cold, deep-well, water to Don's 'nekkid' back-side Miss Betty deemed his arse to be in acceptable condition to enter the home. "Now, go get in the shower and put some soap on that a**", were the next instructions that Don promptly adhered to. Needless to say, they both learned their lessons: Betty was less free with her neck-hugging while away from home, and Don was less aggressive at any future all-u-can-eat salad bars.
This happened many years ago, before bidets were even a "thing" around these parts. Come to think of it, bidets still aren't a "thing" around the thriving metropolis of Jack, AL. That fact may be attributed to the experience that Don had at the end of Miss Betty's hose pipe mounted bidet. News travels fast around these parts.
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06-16-2023, 10:26 AM
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Montana Master
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22 MHC 331RL, Surge Guard 35550, SumoSprings, Kodiak disc brakes, 412Ah Lithium, Gen 3 Goosebox, Sailun 85s
22 Ram 3500 CC DRW 6.7 CTD Herrin Hauler Classic Bed, 45 gal AUX tank
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