From Michelin's own tire data

[Ozz]

I guess if it does not have the snowflake, it is not good for heavy snow...

I made a new thread so this would not get buried in the first thread.

The LTX M/S is Michelin’s Highway All-Season light truck tire developed for vans, pickups and sport utility vehicles, as well as commercial light truck applications to combine long tread life with all-season capabilities. The LTX M/S is designed to deliver a smooth, quiet ride along with traction in dry, wet and wintry conditions, including in light snow.

The LTX M/S features a long wearing, all-season tread compound molded into a symmetric design featuring Michelin’s MaxTouch Construction to produce a contact patch shape that promotes good wear by evenly distributing acceleration, braking, and cornering forces. A symmetric tread design featuring offset circumferential grooves, independent tread blocks and high-density siping delivers grip in almost any kind of weather.

NOTE: The LTX M/S Highway All-Season tire is NOT a dedicated winter / snow tire. It does NOT meet the severe snow traction requirements and is NOT branded with the mountain/snowflake symbol.

[Art-n-Marge]

And I have the M/S2. Does means it's twice as good as the M/S? Or does it?? I thought M/S means Mud and Snow, huh? Does this mean I shouldn't use it in mud either. I have, but had to turn on the 4x4 to get me out. Good thing I have a 4x4 to maybe get me out of snow, too. I thought when something was called "snowflake" that was not a good thing. Ozz, getting me to think too much is not a good thing - I get myself in trouble.

[Ozz]

Deed snow is the keyword, you don't get that much of that stuff out where you live Art.. Hey the guy wears a tire for a suit Art, you can't expect much creativity from him

[bncinwv]

Regardless of what their own web site says, them thar things go good in the white stuff! We get plenty on the mountain, and I have never had a problem, and (knock on wood) have yet to hit a ditch yet. I think I do have M/S 2 on the side though? Don't know what the difference is, I just know they work!
Bingo

[Ozz]

Proof is in the pudding isn't it

[DQDick]

I grew up on the south side of Chicago along the lake. Like Tom saw plenty of the white stuff and I would go with what works for Tom. In fact I have, my truck runs the TA's without the siping. We're back six miles on a dirt road this year and, as you know, if it does rain that road is going to be a sticky nasty mess. Those tires will handle it.

[Tom S.]

Ozz, here's another tip on snow tires: going large is a move in the wrong direction. While a wide foot print is good for mud and sand, a narrow foot print works best for snow. Go with the recommended width for your truck or wheels (assuming you haven't put oversized rims on your truck). Years ago, I had a full size Blazer that I had put locking differentials in the front and rear. With studded snow tires (legal back then), that tank would go anywhere!

[Ozz]

Good tip Tom, makes sense. I also had an old Blazer, I started reading 4X4 magazines, one of the writers with a decked out 4X4 with all the mods he could buy, said he was way out in the sand dunes and got stuck. He said a 1955 chevy drove by him, 4 guys in it, completely stock.

[Chip]

I have run those in Maine for many years. The are great unless you are in an unplowed back road and the tread is worn.

[daily double]

Not trying to rub it in, but I'm going to S.Texas so I don't have to worry about the right tire

[Tom S.]

quote:Originally posted by daily double

Not trying to rub it in, but I'm going to S.Texas so I don't have to worry about the right tire

You aren't rubbing anything in. I like winter. In fact, if it wasn't for our daughter's health, I'd love to live in Alaska.

[bncinwv]

Ditto Tom here. Love winter, grew up in Randolph County, WV where all the ski resorts are nearby in North-Central West Virginia. Average snowfall in some areas nearby is 180 inches a year. I actually miss the amount of snow since we now live in the southern part of the state, which, in our area does not get near the amount of snowfall. Heck I remember having to put sawdust tread bias ply tires on in the winter just to get around. In that part of the state, there were many times they didn't even bother salting the roads due to the colder temperatures. Salt trucks spread cinders and you drove on the snow, ice and cinders.
Bingo

[twindman]

I have better advice for all of you!! Move to Arizona and go north in he summer. Don't need snow tires at all!!!

[Gorgeguy]

I just recently replace the original Michelin LTX tires on my '04 Ram 3500, 91000 + miles and if I had not screwed up and ripped out a sidewall on a fire hydrant, they would have gone farther. They wear like iron. The local ranchers would take them off new trucks because they were not good for traction in mud, they said you could get stuck on a couple of cow pies. Unfortunately, Dodge went to the 18" wheels and to Bridgestone instead of Michelin so I could not buy a set of "take offs" cheaply. But 91K miles on a one ton towing a 12K # fifthwheel, I was impressed.