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11-02-2019, 08:00 AM
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#21
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by masterdrago
... If I could just figure out how to back in the same motion that we pull out
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While I don't have a dip, I have this same "path" issue with our new Montana. It's about 8' longer than our last 5er. With our last 5er I got to where I could put it in the shed without driving on the front yard. I haven't successfully done that with the Montana yet.
It's easy to drive out though, just can't quite replicate that same motion when backing into the shed.
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11-02-2019, 08:08 AM
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#22
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 663
M.O.C. #20906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CADman_KS
Found it online. 96". Dang salesman is a liar. I thought I saw it online too, so I guess that makes me a liar now too.
I don't have to check whether the Superglide clears or not now!!
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Pants on fire?
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2019 Montana 3121RL
2017 XLT 350 SCLB DRW 4X4
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11-02-2019, 08:22 AM
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#23
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldicon
Pants on fire?
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LOL!
Yup, guilty as charged. I lost 20 sg-ft of living space as well, once I found out that it was 96" wide. That was an expensive mistake on my part...
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11-02-2019, 09:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 663
M.O.C. #20906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CADman_KS
LOL!
Yup, guilty as charged. I lost 20 sg-ft of living space as well, once I found out that it was 96" wide. That was an expensive mistake on my part...
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Look on the bright side, easier to get into tight spots!
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2019 Montana 3121RL
2017 XLT 350 SCLB DRW 4X4
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11-02-2019, 02:19 PM
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#25
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Dunnifan
Posts: 31
M.O.C. #25245
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I have a long bed with the b&w companion hitch. I have had no issues and I have moved several trailers for people in our area.
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11-06-2019, 01:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 638
M.O.C. #13862
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I used a Andersen Ultimate for 6 years with my 3400RL and a short-bed Ram SRW, with never once an issue. I'm now on my second Ultimate hitch with a new 5th wheel. Same truck though. If backing through a dip, always watch the bed rails no matter what hitch you use. Also, I've never once did a 90° jack turn. That's abusing your trailer suspension and tires and there's just no need in the real world if you're backing correctly.
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11-06-2019, 02:14 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Florissant
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #23529
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I camp in many campgrounds in my home state of Missouri with access roads with hairpin turns in them. I also winter my Monty in a storage lot where the parking spaces leave little clearance. I took one trip with my manual slider and switched immediately to the PullRite 2700 Superglide. I wouldn't have anything else. They are heavy. I'm thinking of investing in a hitch-mounted crane to take mine out in the winter time. My vote is a robust "thumbs-up".
Bob Sorrells
Florissant, MO
2018 MHC 305RL
2016 GMC 2500 SLT
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11-06-2019, 02:38 PM
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#28
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark N.
I used a Andersen Ultimate for 6 years with my 3400RL and a short-bed Ram SRW, with never once an issue. I'm now on my second Ultimate hitch with a new 5th wheel. Same truck though. If backing through a dip, always watch the bed rails no matter what hitch you use. Also, I've never once did a 90° jack turn. That's abusing your trailer suspension and tires and there's just no need in the real world if you're backing correctly.
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The turn around spot in our driveway is really tight with the yard on one side and the shed on the other. I should measure it sometime, but I'm quessing that I'm 70+ degrees on that turn. The front corner is past the cab corner, and I'm pretty sure that I would hit it, or be really really close, if I didn't have a sliding hitch. It's tight...
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11-06-2019, 02:40 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Palm Coast
Posts: 29
M.O.C. #23201
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I have a short bed ‘18 F-350 and have a B&W Companion Slider and so far anyway I’ve never had to use the slider with our ‘19 Montana and I have backed it into some pretty difficult places. But we are pretty careful and I like knowing I can use the slider part if needed. And yeah, this hitch is heavy (290 lbs). Love the hitch.
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Bill & Jeri RV Travels
2019 Montana 3121RL Anniversary
2018 Ford F-350 Lariat FX4 CC SB SRW 4x4 Diesel
B&W Companion Slider Hitch
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11-06-2019, 02:46 PM
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#30
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobsorrells
... They are heavy. I'm thinking of investing in a hitch-mounted crane to take mine out in the winter time. My vote is a robust "thumbs-up".
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One of my winter projects is to build an "extractor" for my tractor bucket so I can take it in and out much easier. I have to load it into the bucket now, and on the ground that's easy, because I just slide it in. But, then in the truck, I have to drag it over the rails (I have one of the first generation models), and get it in place.
I saw this on the B&W website the other day:
https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/pro...lifting-device
I have an extra kingpin sitting around, so I'm going to make a lifting device out of that for lifting the hitch out of my truck. Hopefully, it makes the entire operation easier. We'll see...
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11-06-2019, 03:06 PM
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#31
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Cedar Park
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #17531
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Love my Pullrite
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11-06-2019, 04:19 PM
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#32
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 153
M.O.C. #22698
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I have had two Demco HiJackers with the auto slide. This is a heavy duty hitch system and sharp turning is a breeze. Years ago I had a manual Pullrite slider that was a pain in the rear. You had to be close to perfectly straight with the trailer for it to slide and half the time it wouldn't slide then. The HiJacker auto-slides and I have never had an issue.
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11-06-2019, 04:21 PM
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#33
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glendodom
... Years ago I had a manual Pullrite slider that was a pain in the rear. You had to be close to perfectly straight with the trailer for it to slide and half the time it wouldn't slide then. ...
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I never knew that PullRite had a manual version. Hummm...
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11-06-2019, 07:00 PM
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#34
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 277
M.O.C. #24588
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My Superglide story
While making a sharp 180 turn at a truck stop, the emergency breakaway cable pulled out due to the cable catching on something. As the truck straightened, the trailer brakes prevented the auto slider from returning to it’s forward position. The torque created by the 38’ trailer not wanting follow the truck, caused the entire jaws holding the 5th wheel’s pin to tear loose and slide off the truck. I’ve seen pictures of this happening to others both Superglide and the Anderson hitches. I currently have used the Anderson hitch on my last 2 5ers and love it. The weight difference between the Anderson and Superglide is substantial. The Anderson base is reversible to move the 5th wheel 8” closer or further from the truck’s cab as is the socket assembly on the 5th wheel’s pin box. I currently pull a 42’ FL3700 with my truck. I’ve notice no chucking or adverse effects from strong winds pulling the FL3700 from Kalispell to Phoenix, to finger lakes region of NY then back to Phoenix over the last 8 months.
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11-06-2019, 07:23 PM
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#35
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Dang a whole winch operation it’s cool but I’ll stick with my Anderson !! Lol. It’s easy on my back.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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11-06-2019, 07:44 PM
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#36
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firestation12
... The torque created by the 38’ trailer not wanting follow the truck, caused the entire jaws holding the 5th wheel’s pin to tear loose and slide off the truck. I’ve seen pictures of this happening to others both Superglide and the Anderson hitches. ...
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I have never heard of that happening with a SuperGlide, but I could see how bad things could happen quickly if the trailer was not wanting to move easily. The hitch and king pin, and physically joined at that point. That was a bad day for sure.
This is definitely something that people with PullRite hitches need to be aware of, and always be thinking about. If for some reason, you ever had to your 5er pulled / towed by someone else, you have to remove that capture plate on the bottom. Fortunately, the newer PullRite capture plates are much much easier to take on and off than the original versions. On my old camper, the plate was held on with 10 bolts (as I recall), AND they were flat head socket head cap screws, so you had to have an allen wrench to get them off. Not necessarily a "tool" that you might have with you at all times.
Our new one is held on with a "capture" type bolt on the front, and a tigthening bolt on the back. They are both 1/2" bolts, so you can take them off with a 3/4" wrench. The back one has an allen head in it too, but you could it off of there without an allen wrench if you had to...
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11-06-2019, 07:59 PM
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#37
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firestation12
While making a sharp 180 turn at a truck stop, the emergency breakaway cable pulled out due to the cable catching on something. ...
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Forgot to mention in my last post, that the emergency cable is something that you have to watch as well. In our last camper, shortly after we got the hitch, I wasn't paying attention enough attention where I routed the cable, and our cable got munched at one point when sliding back. Didn't pull out, luckily, but messed up the cable. After that, I shortened up the cable so that it never dangles down into the working mechanism of the hitch.
It was funny when we picked up our current camper. After putting the locking plate on, I took the emergency cable, and quickly shortened it with a couple of wire ties as a temporary fix. The guy from the service shop helping us hitch up was looking at me like I had no idea what I was doing. I knew exactly what I was doing.
While I have a SuperGlide, and love mine, it's probably safe to say that they are not for everyone...
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11-06-2019, 08:36 PM
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#38
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Omaha
Posts: 256
M.O.C. #17319
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There are a lot of good suggestions on here.that I can't argue with.
I had a 2004 Chevy Silverado HD2500 Cab & 1/2 4WD Diesel. Pulled a TT until 2010 when bought a Montana Mountaineer 326RLT. My Dealer suggested a slider hitch due to the 6.5 foot (or so) truck bed. So I let them install the slider. It's called an EZ Roller. On our first trip to the campground I slid the hitch to it's rear position with the RV attached just to see if I could do it and then rolled it back to the front position. Pulled for 2 years then traded the Chevy for a Dodge 3500 with an 8 foot bed. That is the only time I have ever had the hitch in it's rear position. I transferred the hitch to the Dodge. I have a tool box that sits on the rails about 6 inches above the rail in my Dodge. The Dodge also has rails that are about 1 3/4 inch higher than the Chevy. So the tool box can come about as close to the RV as the cab of the Chevy did. But that is in a very tight backing.
My Mountaineer has the Max Turn Technology also. If I ever backed short enough to hit the RV with either truck, it's a backing turn that I'm not going to be able to follow without pulling ahead and straightening out. My slider is only a manual but if I ever needed it, I have it.
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11-06-2019, 09:17 PM
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#39
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Omaha
Posts: 256
M.O.C. #17319
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The rails that my slider hitch rolls on are a possible place where the breakaway cable can get caught on. So I always tied a couple of knot loops in the cable to shorten it a little. Then one unhitching I saw one of the tied loops lightly hooked on a bolt on the side of the hitch below the jaws. Then I read a tip where someone ran their breakaway cable thru a short length of water hose to prevent it from hooking onto stuff. Has worked so far.
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11-07-2019, 05:51 AM
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#40
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whutfles
.... Then I read a tip where someone ran their breakaway cable thru a short length of water hose to prevent it from hooking onto stuff. Has worked so far.
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That's a good idea!!
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