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Old 11-13-2018, 02:59 PM   #41
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Agreed. Unfortunately when I bought the tt it was on a whim when the hotel I was staying in couldn’t clean the room from the last person to stay there. As for the truck I bought a 3/4 Chevy gasser first and found out that 5.5 mpg pulling wasn’t that good. 6 months later I bought the powerstroke. Still more than happy with it. It was just time to upgrade the camper and I found a deal,wasn’t actually planning on buying that day but, numbers were good. I’m sure that’s how it will go for upgrading the truck.
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:05 PM   #42
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I should probably have a dually for our 16k+ 3811 but I use my truck every day when working at home.

I am constantly in and out of very narrow driveways picking up and delivering boats and snowmobiles and don't want to deal with banged up and scratched fenders on a dually, or the wheelbase.
I will however be getting a 3500 SRW 6.5' bed next time.
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:53 PM   #43
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I don't understand how a manufacture can get away with just adding another spring and nearly doubling the trucks payload capacity.

Another thing I don't understand is why sooo many people buy a 3/4 ton truck when a 1 ton is say, only 1k more. Buy the time you add air bags/springs/timbrens or what ever, you could have saved all the time/effort and $$ and gotten a truck with enough payload capacity from the factory for beans more.

I know a lot of people don't like duallies for various reasons, will not fit in their garage/hard to park at the mall etc. but once you tow with one, you will more that likely kick yourself is the a-- for not doing it sooner.
One of the main reasons the manufacturers do this is because in some northern states there is a 10,000 pound rule for vehicle registration. Vehicles over that are charged MUCH higher rates than the ones at 10k and below. PLUS, a few of those states have it to where an F450 is a commercial vehicle no matter if it is privately owned and must have commercial tags. They must also carry commercial insurance. By making the slightest change in the truck, it enables all the Big # to get by these states so as not to have the customer penalized for owning a "3/4" ton truck that will do most everything a "1 ton" will do. It's purely a numbers game.
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:44 PM   #44
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It's no coincidence that Ford, Ram, and Chevy 3/4 tons are all rated at 10,000lbs
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:33 PM   #45
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Ye,a but in my home state you can register your truck at any weight you want. Makes no sense. I no its not right, but my dually was registered straight from the dealer at 7k lbs. It weighs around 8500lbs empty. Its GVWR is 13025 lbs
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:09 PM   #46
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Well for New York just about all Pick-ups have Commercial Tags and for Registration they go by the OEM Mfr's numbers. My '11 Dually was reg's for it's GVWR of 13K, when we switch to Florida Tags I had it Reg'd for 14,999, was going for 15K but the Clerk said I could save money at 14,999.
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:27 PM   #47
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Here we get off topic again attacking people that doesn’t drive or want a 3500 “dually”. We were just wanting to see and compare FW weights please.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:30 PM   #48
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Here we get off topic again attacking people that doesn’t drive or want a 3500 “dually”. We were just wanting to see and compare FW weights please.
Nobody’s really posting their weights so, we had to have something to talk about.
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:17 AM   #49
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Wondering why the 2 that had the complete weight tickets were heavy on passenger side (ODS or Starboard what ever you choose)!
Is this a norm for our Montana’s
I haven’t had the opportunity to have a 4 corner weight in.
I was guessing my drivers side would be heavy due to kitchen slide,pantry vanity and under bed storage all on that side.
I realize when all 6 slides are in it some what centers but not much weight on passengers side.
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:27 AM   #50
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We have a 2017 3160RL Legacy with 2017 F350 CCLB. One thing we noticed was moving the BW hitch 2 inches to the front location added 300 pounds to the front wheels. That rides better, and shared some of the pin weight with the rear axle. Just a little more tricky hooking up whenever the truck is not straight as the tailgate could get into the trailer if you don’t watch it. We were loaded for a good long trip when I took the 6/2017 measurement. The later measurement had the trailer lightly loaded and the hitch in the rear position. That is 1 inch in front of the axle.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:50 PM   #51
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Here we get off topic again attacking people that doesn’t drive or want a 3500 “dually”. We were just wanting to see and compare FW weights please.
Jamesb, I assume you are talking about me with that comment. I assure you I mean no harm what so ever. But to me the most important part of knowing what your set up weighs is to determine if your gig/truck is over weight and within the legal limits (which a lot are not). Otherwise, what's the point in weighing in at all. Comparing weights of different trucks and campers is like comparing how much of a tax return people get. There is no point.

If I posted the weights of my rig that were WAY over weight, I would welcome the fact that some one pointed that out to me (maybe I am new to towing and just do not know)

Its great to see that at least some care what their rig weighs and that they have the correct equipment to tow it.

There are many, many people that just go buy a truck and or trailer paying absolutely no attention to there weights.
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:30 PM   #52
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Just out of curiosity, what do each of your 5'ers weigh fully loaded? I know I am a tad bit over the limit. Anyone else?
On what are you over weight? With any 3500 dually pulling a Montana you should be well within the limits. I have experience with a GM dually, well inside the limits on truck axle and combined. A GM 3500 SRW was marginal, thus my reason in going with the DRW.
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