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09-12-2020, 12:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
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M.O.C. #7871
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Originally Posted by Falcon
What shoe? Your analogy is misplaced. I was referring to you telling Mike he didn't know what he was doing with his modifications--and then he handed you your a$$.
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Anybody pulling a nearly 17k GVWR Montana with a 250/2500 truck doesn't have a say here. You're part of the problem. I'm done here.
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09-12-2020, 07:21 PM
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#62
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Keller
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #26851
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Originally Posted by dfb
Probably because the tires will pop at 13000 lbs?.
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Lol, probably before then!
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09-12-2020, 07:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Lamesa
Posts: 629
M.O.C. #26010
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I've watched this thread from inception, not because I'm going to modify a 3/4 ton to be a "bigger/better" truck but because I was interested in what/how something like that is done. I just buy new trucks and would never think about going to those lengths to try to make "this" into "that", doesn't seem worthwhile or cost effective.
That said, if a person was willing to do that, paid for it and had a qualified shop able to then recertify the truck....I'm not sure what I think about that. It's probably legit. If that is the case I suppose folks like me just look at those new cert labels and shake our heads....but I accept it - I don't make those rules.
As was said those mods were made for whatever reasons and they seem like they meet regulations. Would I do it? No. Do I think there are many more things to worry about when trying to make a truck a "bigger truck" than springs etc.? Absolutely (hence proper truck). On the other hand, the effort was made, the regs were met by stickers.....informational to me.
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2019 Ram Laramie 3500 6.4 4x4 CC 4.10 SRW
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09-12-2020, 08:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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So I wonder if the OP has a definitive answer after 60+ responses.
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09-13-2020, 06:49 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 287
M.O.C. #23051
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Originally Posted by Montana Man
So I wonder if the OP has a definitive answer after 60+ responses.
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Not sure about the OP but I learned something today.
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09-13-2020, 10:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
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M.O.C. #26190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLightning
Anybody pulling a nearly 17k GVWR Montana with a 250/2500 truck doesn't have a say here. You're part of the problem. I'm done here.
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If I'm not mistaken, the original question by the author, who owns a 2500, is whether or not to install airbags, and any problems associated with them....period. His post was not here to be beaten up by the 350/3500/4500, and the dually crowd. So sorry if some of us members don't have the most ideal tow vehicle.
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09-13-2020, 10:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
M.O.C. #9969
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I'm not in favor of RVs having to stop at Weigh Stations, but I think it would put an end to some of this debate and maybe even get of dangerously overloaded units off the roads.
We were in a CG and saw a 1500 Chevy leaving with a Huge Slide in Camper, the rear bumper was almost dragging on the ground.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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09-13-2020, 10:54 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Frostbite Falls
Posts: 446
M.O.C. #26015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 432bartman
If I'm not mistaken, the original question by the author, who owns a 2500, is whether or not to install airbags, and any problems associated with them....period. His post was not here to be beaten up by the 350/3500/4500, and the dually crowd. So sorry if some of us members don't have the most ideal tow vehicle.
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Yup too many weight police. Wonder how many have a badge.
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09-13-2020, 11:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Centerville
Posts: 1,358
M.O.C. #9051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
So I wonder if the OP has a definitive answer after 60+ responses.
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Basically he wanted to know about leaks , I think he got a pretty good answer to that .
I have listened to these debates about the 3/4 vs 1 ton's for years now, and at one time I do know there was no difference between the 250 ,and 350 Ford Superduty ,except for the rear leaf springs, you could google part #'s for brakes ,axles etc etc etc, no difference.
When I bought my 2008 3400RL Montana fifth wheel new , I was overloaded with my 1999 Ford Superduty 350. Now with my 2014 Ram 3500 I am now not over my weight ratings with the same fifth wheel. Both trucks came new with 16" tires rated for 3640 lbs. I know power has a lot to do with ratings, as well as other thinks.
It just seems these 1 ton trucks keep getting better weight ratings in SRW as time goes on ,yet to me the limiting factor at some point has got to be the tire ratings.
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09-13-2020, 01:15 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
Posts: 234
M.O.C. #22281
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Originally Posted by 77cruiser
Yup too many weight police. Wonder how many have a badge.
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They come with duallies, mine was in my packet next to my owner's manual in the glovebox.
On my 2018 ram dually they take out one rear spring on each side and put airbags in on the rear axle as part of the rear air leveling option.
I'd have never ordered this but it was on the truck on the lot I ended up buying.
It's the greatest thing ever. Hook up to the montana and hear the air compressor hum and truck back to level. It's really neat.
Not that the truck really drops much, because did I mention IT'S A DUALLY.
No trouble parking it, no trouble driving it, don't do anything different than I used to do in my 2015 silverado duramax 2500hd.
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09-13-2020, 02:01 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
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Yep back then the SRW f350 had a spacer block, overload springs and possibly a little different rear spring pack, I am not positive. The other big thing was a GVW rating go 9,900 lbs verse 8,800 lbs. Lots of difference between those trucks and the DRW option. I really liked my 2000 F-350 except the terrible turning radius and noise.
Tom Marty
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09-16-2020, 10:35 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Oakland
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M.O.C. #26900
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Hi
And thank you . How did you find the dot authorized spring shop .?What was the up grade tire you got? I am not interested in investing in a new truck!
Thanks again.
Dave
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09-17-2020, 12:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Keller
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #26851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgeisser
Hi
And thank you . How did you find the dot authorized spring shop .?What was the up grade tire you got? I am not interested in investing in a new truck!
Thanks again.
Dave
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Sent you a PM. Let me know if you do not receive it.
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09-23-2020, 05:21 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: GTA
Posts: 20
M.O.C. #26789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TLightning
Anybody pulling a nearly 17k GVWR Montana with a 250/2500 truck doesn't have a say here. You're part of the problem. I'm done here.
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New to this forum. Is this the sort of attitude I can expect? Not impressed!!
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09-23-2020, 05:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
M.O.C. #9969
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You may be new, but do you want someone telling you it's OK to tow grossly overloaded because they do?? Sort of like when your Mother asked "If all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you follow?"
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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09-23-2020, 06:05 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: GTA
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M.O.C. #26789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
You may be new, but do you want someone telling you it's OK to tow grossly overloaded because they do?? Sort of like when your Mother asked "If all your friends jumped off a cliff, would you follow?"
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I’m new to this forum but have been an RV’er for many years. The overload towing was not what I was referring to. It was the attitude in his response.
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09-23-2020, 07:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Lamesa
Posts: 629
M.O.C. #26010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glades
I’m new to this forum but have been an RV’er for many years. The overload towing was not what I was referring to. It was the attitude in his response.
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Pull up a chair and don't get your hair in a dander . Maybe the wording was harsh to you but not a common thing. On the other hand, if you condone or encourage folks to tow overloaded you will get feedback. Settle in and cruise for awhile - great site and great folks with lots to share.
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2019 Ram Laramie 3500 6.4 4x4 CC 4.10 SRW
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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09-23-2020, 09:02 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Frostbite Falls
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M.O.C. #26015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glades
I’m new to this forum but have been an RV’er for many years. The overload towing was not what I was referring to. It was the attitude in his response.
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Some get like that when they get the weight police badge from Tony the Tiger.
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09-24-2020, 07:41 AM
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#79
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glades
I’m new to this forum but have been an RV’er for many years. The overload towing was not what I was referring to. It was the attitude in his response.
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The forum has a feature called PM, or private message. If you have an issue with someone, especially if it doesn't affect you personally, you can message them there.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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09-24-2020, 07:50 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: GTA
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M.O.C. #26789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
The forum has a feature called PM, or private message. If you have an issue with someone, especially if it doesn't affect you personally, you can message them there.
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Thanks. I’ll use it if I ever see a need for it.
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