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08-13-2020, 09:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Keller
Posts: 525
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Originally Posted by allenclme
Thank you for posting this. I have never weighed my 5er but now I'm really interested. Do you just pull onto the scales at a Flying J or do you disconnect and weigh the truck first and then reconnect and weigh both? I don't want to look like an idiot when I go do this so any advice is appreciated.
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Your pin weight as listed from manufacturer is EMPTY weight. And is most likely inaccurate.
Actual weights, LOADED, including full fresh water tank:
Go in the store first and tell them what you want to do, you will need 3 weights. They should be able to tell you where on the scale to put your truck and rig for the weights you want.
1. park rig and weigh rear axle with full fuel tank.
2. Drop RV on scales. Weigh RV with full load including full fresh water tank.
3. Weigh rear axle with rig on board.
You can really do this in any order you want as long as you have the 3 weights. You can now determine your actual loaded axle weight without the rig. Axle weight with rig, and actual weight of RV loaded. You can now determine how your weights fit within your truck axle rating, payload rating, and actual pin weight loaded. These are most critical to know. Best to know worst case/ heaviest loads and know what your wiggle room is, or if you are already maxed out or over weight.
Having said all that, I need to practice what I preach. Lol! Having new tires put on first of next week, then headed to the scales. Hope this helps.
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08-13-2020, 10:13 AM
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#42
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Keller
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #26851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
Download the CAT, "Weigh my truck" app from Google play store.
Open the app and setup an account including how you are going to pay ($12 initial weigh + $2 re-weigh).
Follow the instructions on the app. Its really easy, walks you right through the steps.
Here's a good video
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Great video, thanks. One thing I was curious about was how much load goes to front axle. Some part of that pin weight goes to the front axle and most never figure that in to pin weight. I guess rear axle pin weight is most critical.
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08-13-2020, 11:18 AM
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#43
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,281
M.O.C. #26190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikelff
Great video, thanks. One thing I was curious about was how much load goes to front axle. Some part of that pin weight goes to the front axle and most never figure that in to pin weight. I guess rear axle pin weight is most critical.
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Mikelff that was a great video you posted. Now I'm curious to see the weight my rig is.
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08-13-2020, 11:34 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,686
M.O.C. #4831
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If you travel in or through Oregon, be aware the State scales are always operational even when the office is closed. So when you see a closed one, you can do an exhaustive weigh job. There is only one scale which means you have to weigh the front, rear, and trailer wheels separately. But a little simple math will give you totals. Before you unhitch and weigh empty, take the opportunity to do something you can't do at the truck scales.
Back the rig up and now weigh only one side of the front, rear, and trailer tires. If you are really good you can measure each wheel of a two axle trailer individually. Now that you know the weight of each wheel on one side, you can calculate the weight on the other wheel.
Lastly weigh the truck without the RV to determine the pin weight.
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08-13-2020, 12:40 PM
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#45
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Alton
Posts: 2,892
M.O.C. #24086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikelff
Great video, thanks. One thing I was curious about was how much load goes to front axle. Some part of that pin weight goes to the front axle and most never figure that in to pin weight. I guess rear axle pin weight is most critical.
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In my case, the 3100 pin weight added 160lbs to the front axle
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08-13-2020, 03:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 681
M.O.C. #20906
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Loaded for a 3 month trip, my 3121 pin weight was 3500 lbs. I suspect the trailer alone will put him over his limits, but that's just me guessing.
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08-14-2020, 07:21 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Livermore
Posts: 492
M.O.C. #17391
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Here is what I would do. Hook up the trailer with all your stuff. Take it to the scale and weigh everything and then check the weight on the drive wheels. If you are below the GAWR than you are good to go. If you are over that weight then you need to unload something. Don't forget the load rating on the tires. That also counts. I do however think that your axle rating is higher than the tire rating. You are not overloaded if you are under the axle or tire rating.
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08-16-2020, 09:19 AM
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#48
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: MUSTANG
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #26208
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Re Truck Capacity
I have a 2020, 3121RL and struggled with the same thing. I've attached the you tube video that helped me understand exactly what size truck I needed.
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08-20-2020, 12:28 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: EAST HAMPTON
Posts: 59
M.O.C. #23030
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I talked to guy pulling a heavy DRV with a 2015 F250. He added air bags on the truck and claims he has no problem with he F250 pulling a 20k+ GVW trailer. I suspect the GM 250 and Ford diesels are simular in pulling charactorists.
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08-22-2020, 06:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave10
....claims he has no problem with he F250 pulling a 20k+ GVW trailer.....
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Right, that's what they all say.
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08-22-2020, 06:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,666
M.O.C. #2283
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I pulled a friend’s DRV with my 2008 F250 6.4 diesel. Before I started I was a little worried about the weight of the camper and the pin weight. You can believe any thing you wish but it was no problem, starting, stopping, up hill, down hill or anywhere else.
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08-23-2020, 08:37 AM
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#52
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Arlington
Posts: 136
M.O.C. #21176
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This is the reason I bought a class 8 tractor to pull my fifth wheel. I'm never going to exceed the rear axle weight of the truck.
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