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02-28-2018, 06:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Thornville
Posts: 546
M.O.C. #21110
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Bottle Jack
What size/type of jack are you all using to lift an axle to change a wheel if needed? Just looking for suggestions and ideas. Thanks in advance!
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Darwin & Carla
2018.5 3701LK Montana
2022 3500HD Denali Duramax SRW
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02-28-2018, 07:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,587
M.O.C. #2283
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Mine is either a 3 or 4 ton can’t remember which. Even a 3 ton will lift more than any wheel on a camper. It fits in about a 5 x 8 inch box. I think perfect.
Lynwood
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02-28-2018, 07:11 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: R
Posts: 261
M.O.C. #17922
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I carry a 6 ton and a 12 ton bottle jack with me. My truck came with a 4 ton bottle jack from factory. The 12 ton was what I had when I was trucking so I figure why not put it in the trailer. Trailer also has level up which also could be used.
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02-28-2018, 07:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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I carry a 5 ton plenty of jack & it fits in a small space!
Bob & Carol
Washington St
2017 352RL 2008 Dodge 3500 DRW CC LB 4x4 6.7:
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02-28-2018, 07:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,217
M.O.C. #6433
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Mine is a 4 ton. No wheel is going to have even 2 tons sitting on it so 4 ton has plenty of safety margin.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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02-28-2018, 08:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Carry two 12 tons with us.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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02-28-2018, 08:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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I carry a 6 and a 4 ton ... no need for anything more unless you already have say a 12 ton. Like Bill said, there's not going to be much more than 2600# - 2800# on any one wheel if you jack right under the axle between the U Bolts.
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02-28-2018, 08:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,732
M.O.C. #12947
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Carry a 12 ton bottle jack, but never use it to change a tire or do maintenance on the bearings or brakes. The last time I did use it was to replace the MORryde rubber suspension blocks between the springs. I also carry a Safe Jack kit with an adapter to use with my 12 ton jack for use with whatever else might need jacking, truck or other vehicles. Just don't like using scrap blocks or other dangerous methods to do emergency jacking. https://safejacks.com/collections/bo...ut-bottle-jack
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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03-01-2018, 01:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
Posts: 1,050
M.O.C. #19873
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I carry a 12 ton jack. I've never used it. I use the leveling system to lift entire trailer to change tires or grease wheel bearings.
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03-01-2018, 04:10 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
I carry in the bed of the truck 1 sheet of ¾ plywood cut into quarters 8 4X4X30 inch wood blocks and under the back seat 2 bottle jacks one 3 ton and one 20 ton.
I have been stuck 3 times in commercial RV parks and I don’t allow anyone to tow any of my vehicles out of soft ground. I jack and track them out.
Phil P
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2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
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03-01-2018, 05:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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I carry a low version 12T jack. Way overkill but I have a couple so it became a part of the 'standard' maintenance tools I carry. As a note, I carry enough blocking since we don't have self leveling that it's even easier to just drive one wheel up on 2 or 3 of those boards. The other wheel then comes off the ground and is a bunch cleaner and safer then a jack under the spring plate. If you are doing wheel bearings - what's a little dirt in that grand scheme
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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03-01-2018, 05:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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I don't carry a bottle jack. I use the Level Up if necessary.
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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03-01-2018, 07:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
I don't carry a bottle jack. I use the Level Up if necessary.
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I have a curiosity question for you as well as others that use the self leveling.
You have a flat tire which means you have to stop alongside the highway. The shoulder is not a good surface and will be for miles. How do you use that leveling system ? Can you raise one side? Wouldn't you be batter off with a plank leveled out and a bottle jack to safely raise your $$ 5er
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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03-01-2018, 02:14 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
I have a curiosity question for you as well as others that use the self leveling.
You have a flat tire which means you have to stop alongside the highway. The shoulder is not a good surface and will be for miles. How do you use that leveling system ? Can you raise one side? Wouldn't you be batter off with a plank leveled out and a bottle jack to safely raise your $$ 5er
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I haven't been faced with that yet but should be able to place boards under the pads in the front and rear of the affected tire just as one would the bottle jack. Yes you can raise just one side.
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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03-01-2018, 03:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WeBeFulltime
I haven't been faced with that yet but should be able to place boards under the pads in the front and rear of the affected tire just as one would the bottle jack. Yes you can raise just one side.
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OK - that works. Thanks
But if our next last 5er has self leveling, I'll probably still choose a jack and or stacked boards for side of road tire changes. Tough to change an OFs ways
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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03-01-2018, 03:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 525
M.O.C. #19994
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If my level up wont do it for some reason, i use the one that came with the 450, cant imagine needing more than one jack, as with others i have plenty of plastic planks and boards for the landing gear, even with the level up, some campgounds wont let your metal pads hit the black top?
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The "Black Pearl"-2017 3731FL Legacy Package
2017 F-450 Platinum, 6.7 PSD
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03-01-2018, 10:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Box Elder
Posts: 4,732
M.O.C. #12947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W
I have a curiosity question for you as well as others that use the self leveling.
You have a flat tire which means you have to stop alongside the highway. The shoulder is not a good surface and will be for miles. How do you use that leveling system ? Can you raise one side? Wouldn't you be batter off with a plank leveled out and a bottle jack to safely raise your $$ 5er
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In 'Manual' mode, the system can raise one side or the other and unless you were stopped on a sandy shoulder, will work just fine. Bad location, just drive slowly until you get to a safe location. The tire is probably trash anyway.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402RL
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC 4WD
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03-02-2018, 05:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,788
M.O.C. #14547
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OK - sounds like the levelers have it covered. Thanks for the info
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Dave W
2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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03-03-2018, 03:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Okeechobee
Posts: 2,150
M.O.C. #11206
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Hi
We can’t use the Level-Up system because the front hydraulic cylinders will not raise the trailer enough to move the steam engine from the truck to the trailer or the reverse.
Phil P
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2009 Montana 3665RE
2009 Duramax 3500 DRW quad cab
personal web page https:// www.sallyscoffees.com
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03-03-2018, 09:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 959
M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil P
Hi
We can’t use the Level-Up system because the front hydraulic cylinders will not raise the trailer enough to move the steam engine from the truck to the trailer or the reverse.
Phil P
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I must be missing something in this thread
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2011 2955RL Gen-Y Executive Kingpin
2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
4X4 Crew Cab/Standard bed.
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